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[Jeremy Kolb <jkolb AT brandeis.edu>]

> First of all, please file bugs, complaining to the mailing list (while
> it can get some attention for a short period of time) doesnt leave a
> permanent record of what needs to be done and requests are often dropped.

My bad.

> Second, what sorcery version? This is not only important for the team
> to fix but for what users will be effected. If this is only a problem
> with devel sorcery (as i suspect it would be as we havent touched the
> code in test or stable in 2 major releases) then I would recommend you
> indicate that as it would otherwise be assumed that this effects everyone,
> which is not the case.

Yes it is devel sorcery with the test grimoire.  I figured that it would 
be an issue with the spell itself and not sorcery.

> Also, remember devel sorcery is devel sorcery and if you cant stand to
> have your box break from time to time, use test or stable, thats what
> they're there for, we have devel to bring up these problems before the
> rest of the userbase runs into them :-)
>
> Third, I would hardly say the defaults are "evil and bad", I would say
> enabling every service out of the box, and having your box hacked is
> evil and bad. Cant imagine any other distros that do things like that.
>
> I would say defaulting to not installing services and not enabling them
> is safe and conservative.

It defaulted to not installing mountall, smgl-misc, devices and so on, 
things that are critical to any box, not just any old init scripts. 
That's why I was concerned as anyone who didn't know better would have 
gone with the default, rebooted and realized that their system wouldn't 
boot correctly.

Jeremy