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["Sergey A. Lipnevich" <sergey AT optimaltec.com>]

Guys, since I'm not very knowledgeable in this, feel free to correct, 
but wouldn't user-mode Linux support in 2.6 make it easier than chroot? 
Can you maybe test the 2.6 kernel with more spells and start using its 
features? I can only see an obstacle of NPTL in the way, but I think we 
have to switch to NPTL anyway if we want to remain current.

Sergey.

Duane Malcolm wrote:

> Andrew wrote:
>
> > > I had thought to use tinderboxes purely to test software, the 
> > > wetware and UI problem with sorcery i see as a different issue. 
> > > Having said that i do see how it could be used to report bugs for 
> > > sorcery, but it would be hard to simulate the stupidity of some 
> > > people... Should we really try to do that or should we help the 
> > > sorcery team idiot-proof their code some other way ?
> > >
> > >   
> >
> >
> > I guess im not doing a good job explaining myself. Im not really talking
> > about idiot-proofness. More along the lines of some newbie out there
> > wants to install some number of spells and following the instructions
> > types cast <list>, then proceeds to let all the defaults go by (or
> > something). There arent many real problems with sorcery at this point,
> > at least very few that a tinderbox the way I think we are envisioning
> > it can catch. What I think we are after is making sure spells install
> > properly under different conditions, which we as developers cant always
> > catch since we dont have the time to test our spells manually on n
> > different setups.
> >
> > Anyone else interested? How about that irc design meeting?
> There wouldn't be much work in implementing both systems would there. 
> One system casts a random list of spells to check different 
> configurations and the other casts a fixed list of spells, which are 
> the basic install spells (base system, xfree, maybe ked and gnome). 
> And then reporting on sucesses and failures.
>
> I would support a chroot system, where while I sleep I'll tell my PC 
> to go into tinderbox mode (chroot) and cast 8 hours of random spells 
> and report on them. Then it either submits the report or I could 
> browse it, for simple problems such as failed download due to no 
> network, and then manually commit it.
>
> I am interested in the reporting system and how to collate the reports 
> in an intelligently to find problems.
>
> "The FireBrigade" isn't really magic oriented is it??