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  • From: Hamish Greig <hgreig AT bigpond.net.au>
  • To: Andrew <afrayedknot AT thefrayedknot.armory.com>, sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org, Source Mage - Grimoire <sm-grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org>, Source Mage - Users <sm-users AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] Re: [SM-Grimoire] Re: [SM-Users] tinderboxes
  • Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:41:35 +1000

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:19, Andrew wrote:
> well i guess the unstated assumption here is that we build our list of
> things to cast (pretend you are a newbie). So we type cast <list o' stuff>
> then cast does its thing and builds dependancies (cast already does it
> (how well i know...)). The idea is for maximal newbie simulation. We
> can of course derive what cast was doing, so everything is good, but
> the point is not to give sorcery any help. This will also in fact cast
> some thing repeatedly, but then again if they are dependancies maybe
> they ought to be tested more rigourously?
>

I had thought to use tinderboxes purely to test software, the wetware and UI
problem with sorcery i see as a different issue. Having said that i do see
how it could be used to report bugs for sorcery, but it would be hard to
simulate the stupidity of some people... Should we really try to do that or
should we help the sorcery team idiot-proof their code some other way ?

> > yes, but i just realised i left out cast --fix at this stage to see if
> > anything important has been dispelled, if it has then we grep the install
> > log dir and send that out via email also...
>
> That reminds me, I was figuring doing a 'find' before and a 'find' after we
> dispel stuff, along with some gratuitous md5sum checking, then comparing,
> and emailing with problems.
>

glass half full,glass half empty. I think we agree some check is necessary,
using sorcery tools wherever possible would be preferable for me...

> > If a team is what takes your fancy, then sure, can we call it "The
> > FireBrigade" ?
>
> I figured it'd be motivational and organizational and stuff.

What is more motivational than a catchy name?

> theres not much clustering really...just mkdir;cp;chroot;tinderbox.sh

Oh i misunderstood, i thought you meant donate cycles to a network of
machines, i think the chroot environ should be optional to a tinderbox.
Ie Tinderbox becomes a spell that installs a suite of scripts/tools and asks
a
lot of configure questions during cast, one of which would be "is this a
dedicated tinderbox" Or "would you like to use chroot to manage you
tinderbox". If dedicated it sets it up via cron jobs, if chroot it uses the
(unfinished) ISO-making script to setup the install/chroot dir ?
Hamish
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