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[Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>]

Great insightful debate / banter. The question must be asked and is anyway
exercised by 1,000s of our global family to not bother attending an IPC.
Lawrence has aired his view which I concur with to a point.

I personally do enjoy the party and catching up with many at such events,
whenever I can make it. Many like LL have a different focus which should
also be equally respected as should everyone elses position and preference.

To spit the dummy and huff off does not add to the functions we all need to
share. But that is a preference also. Time will come where we have a chat
room like this where all comments of any nature can be aired and discussed
debated and argued. It may be too rough for some but the healthy banter is
long overdue....bring it on...Steve Hart

On 26 May 2017 at 13:10, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:34 AM, wesley roe Santa Barbara Permaculture
> Network <lakinroe@silcom.com> wrote:
>
> > this is crazy making
> > I have never seen you at any of the International Permaculture
> Convergence
> > ,have you ever been to one ? I have attended everyone since 2005 and
> no-one
> > has ever talked about you being at one unless you attended therein 1986
> in
> > USA
> >
> >
> I have never been to any IPC and have never taken a formal PDC and have met
> only one Permaculture dignitary.
> No time or money to travel, ever. Too busy building permaculture systems
> that work over time on my mini farm,
> maintaining this and other valued lists and earning a living.
>
> You should make it your mission for the next month to bring Neil DeGrasse
> Tyson into the world of Permaculture.
> He needs to know about it and what it can do. He, for a giant scientist, is
> actually one of Permaculture's best friends.
> He insists that it would be easier and less expensive to re-terraform
> Earth, reduce existing and future human-generated risks to humanity,
> develop the technology to deflect asteroids headed to Earth, than to go to
> Mars, terraform it and transport untold millions there to live. This is his
> response to Stephen Hawking's contention that Mankind will soon need to
> find some extra terrestial body to live on. You could tell him that the
> formula for the curvature of the lens of Permaculture is perfectly in sync
> with the Standard Model.
>
> Permaculture is too big now for all those millions practicing and
> developing it to be distracted by the notions of a few high profile
> permaculture professionals who place making large fortunes from
> Permaculture higher than maintaining the purity and robustness
> of the standards that define it.
>
> Anyway, Tyson talks about Multiverses as if they do exist and what their
> relationship with parallel universes is. That is some heavy stuff but so is
> permaculture (especially if you see it as I do).
>
> Onward back to the Earth.
>
> Here is Tyson't book:
>
> Astrophysics for People in a Hurry Hardcover – May 2, 2017
> by Neil deGrasse Tyson (Author)
> $11.37
>
> He is way beyond fascinating.
>
> LL
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