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[Koreen Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>]

I'm not sure who you are hanging out with, but I think most of us do stress 
that getting it right is a process. If one compares permaculture to just 
about any other subject in that regard, I think we will find that we come out 
pretty glowingly. Look at the "science" of "Green Revolution" agriculture 
which is not unlike the two monkeys who see and hear no evil as their 
lifeblood fertility washes off the fields of America and through the longest 
watershed in the US, to end up in the Gulf of Mexico, killing shrimp. 
Fundamental principles of permacuture require that we observe what the entire 
system is doing and act accordingly. This one concept alone is revolutionary, 
when we look at how most human systems operate. At our core, we are willing 
to question systems, including our own, rather than believe in them as a 
religion that should not be questioned, in spite of any evidence to the 
contrary, as the Monsanto crowd does.
 
Koreen Brennan

www.growpermaculture.com
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On Saturday, January 25, 2014 6:19 AM, Holger Hieronimi 
<holger@tierramor.org> wrote:
 
Why Bad? I think this article is a good one, althought it is very 
critical with some expressions of PC-
the author is not uninformed, since she aparently read though some of 
the basic literature plus seems to have considerable experience in 
organic food production...

Its more than clear now that some of the "Mollsionisms" ("The designer 
becomes a recliner"/ "The problem is the solution"/ etc.) were great 
vehicles to draw atention back in the 80ies, but also helped to build 
"cult permaculture" & a cadre of enthusiastic PC illuminates described 
in the article. No problem...I have been one after my first PDC back in 
1996....and I´m happy for that, since this motivated me (in my case) to 
actually try to establish some systems and realize that not everything 
works as well in realiity as described th the PC Designers Manual, a 
greant book but definitly not the "bible" and/or ultimate expression of PC.

Every course of some PC celebrities (Geoff Lawton is one prominent 
example) adds some more to this number (and I think nobody in thios 
group wants to qualify him as some body who gives "bad courses"), and 
its only through a few years of practice "on the ground", establishing 
designs, getting dirtty, maintainig developing systems, producing food, 
experiencing how systems actually work and evolve over time in different 
climates & contexts, that the imaginative power of PC concepts get grounded.

saludos desde Colombia (en este momento)

Holger


El 24/01/14 04:14, permaculture-request@lists.ibiblio.org escribió:
> The Trouble with Permaculture
> http://www.resilience.org/stories/2014-01-23/the-trouble-with-permaculture
>
> a very bad article; Vlad fodder, awful - just to see what the uninformed
> are up to

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