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["Pete Gasper, Gasper Family Farm" <farmer1@gasperfarm.com>]

Yes well, America is well into the corruption stage of things and the 
infection runs from top to bottom.

Pete

On 09/01/2013 06:48 PM, John D'hondt wrote:
> > I have little faith in this label. I've known of several instances of
> > farmers using the label while not certified or admittedly engaging in
> > practices contrary to the cert and the organization did nothing.
> That would most definitely not work over here in Europe. The organic
> inspectors were very sharp and extremely competent. And really, it is not
> that difficult to establish that fiddling would be going on. You only hve to
> look at the natural vegetation to see if any weed killers were used. Turn
> over a stone and you expect to find worms or worm holes and a slug or two.
> The fiddlers would not be too intelligent anyway. And the penalty for being
> found out would easily bancrupt the farm.
> > Principles not paperwork. In the end inspections, paperwork, and
> > certifications cannot make up for what is essentially a moral problem.
> > What
> > we need is personal integrity amoung farmers and a willingness to act on
> > them even if not profitable and be open about ones shortcomings.
> And I agree with that of course.
> John
> > Pete
> >
> > On 08/20/2013 07:04 PM, John D'hondt wrote:
> > > Makes a lot of sense to me. We were certified organic for 14 years and
> > > the
> > > price for certification went up year after year but our income didn't. We
> > > could see the time coming that we would need to borrow money to pay for
> > > certification. The paperwork involved also was no longer doable. That
> > > took
> > > about a month's work for a person every year.
> > > I know better than most the dangers of using unatural chemical ways and
> > > we
> > > eat our own produce after all. So of course we grow natural.
> > >
> > > John, no longer certified
> > >
> > > > SCHAGHTICOKE, N.Y.: Certified Naturally Grown: An alternative label to
> > > > organic | Business | NewsObserver.com
> > > > http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/17/3114829/naturally-grown-an-alternative.html
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