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[Michael Pilarski <friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com>]

As a busy market gardener with usually over 100 tomato plants in a field 
setting, I have never pinched side shoots, because I just do not have the 
time to do so.  My tomato plants always give good yields, so I have never 
bothered.  I imagine it makes sense to do lots of detailed pruning if you are 
growing in a greenhouse up a long string to the ceiling.  

 
Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds


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Subject: Re: [permaculture] To Pinch or not to Pinch
 

Jason,

I have not found pinching side shoots to increase production or size  
of tomatoes.

Kevin Topek
www.permaculturedesign.net



On Jun 24, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Jason Gerhardt wrote:

> I'm curious to get a sampling of perspectives about pinching back
> side-shoots on tomatoes. I'm running a variety trial this year (for  
> my own
> interests) and was in the crop yesterday really wondering about the
> side-shoot pinching practice. I learned this method a decade ago  
> from a
> mentor and have been practicing it, perhaps blindly, ever since.  
> Since I
> have three or so plants from each variety I think I will pinch some  
> and not
> on others, and practice that good ole observation science.
>
> So what say you epic gardeners of this list? To pinch or not to pinch?
>
> -- 
> Jason Gerhardt
>
> PO Box 4355
> Boulder, CO 80306
> 720-496-9744
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There are determinate and indeterminate types of tomatoes.  Indeterminate 
types grow long like a vine and are the ones that they grow in greenhouses 
like Skeeter mentioned hanging from strings from the ceiling.  They can grow 
30 ft plus long if you pinch the side shoots.  They will also produce less 
fruit if you pinch, and hence (maybe) larger fruit- kind of like thinning 
fruit trees.

Determinate varieties do not grow so long and I usually just let them sprawl 
on the ground, cuz I am a lazy gardener and I like to forage for my food :)  
Plus they produce much more fruit I think without pinching, just maybe not 
the largest.

Loren Luyendyk
805-452-8249
Permaculture Design and Education
ISA Certified Arborist #WE-7805A
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> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:49:24 -0700
> From: friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] To Pinch or not to Pinch
> 
> As a busy market gardener with usually over 100 tomato plants in a field 
> setting, I have never pinched side shoots, because I just do not have the 
> time to do so.  My tomato plants always give good yields, so I have never 
> bothered.  I imagine it makes sense to do lots of detailed pruning if you 
> are growing in a greenhouse up a long string to the ceiling.  
> 
>  
> Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
> Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds
> 
> 
> Sign up for my newsletter at www.friendsofthetrees.net
> www.facebook.com/michael.skeeter.pilarski
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Kevin Topek <ktopek@att.net>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org> 
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 9:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] To Pinch or not to Pinch
>  
> 
> Jason,
> 
> I have not found pinching side shoots to increase production or size  
> of tomatoes.
> 
> Kevin Topek
> www.permaculturedesign.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 24, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Jason Gerhardt wrote:
> 
> > I'm curious to get a sampling of perspectives about pinching back
> > side-shoots on tomatoes. I'm running a variety trial this year (for  
> > my own
> > interests) and was in the crop yesterday really wondering about the
> > side-shoot pinching practice. I learned this method a decade ago  
> > from a
> > mentor and have been practicing it, perhaps blindly, ever since.  
> > Since I
> > have three or so plants from each variety I think I will pinch some  
> > and not
> > on others, and practice that good ole observation science.
> >
> > So what say you epic gardeners of this list? To pinch or not to pinch?
> >
> > -- 
> > Jason Gerhardt
> >
> > PO Box 4355
> > Boulder, CO 80306
> > 720-496-9744
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