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[Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>]

what's the big deal?....is part of the real question and the problem...the
reality is that many graduates of whatever course or learning in
Permaculture still don't get it....that PC is a design philosophy based on
principles. It is not a set of recipes nor a methodology...that is the big
deal. So those of us who give a damn rather than putting our ego and
pockets first need to continually ask what we are offering those in search
of solutions that what is delivered is continually strengthened rather than
what is the case now ..serious weakening...that is the big deal...and what
we need is to continually question our own integrity. How it is delivered
is by in large irrelevant because of the many divergent ways of learning.
However the original PDC of 72 hr minimum covering every aspect of the
original curriculum must be the minimum expectation beyond the great array
of introduction, lectures, talks, weekends etc etc. Our challenge is to
strengthen the curriculum and ensure all elements are being covered
adequately by qualified practitioners....otherwise we continue to weaken
the entire doctrine....then what is the outcome ? we already see this.
..Steve Hart


On 11 June 2013 12:57, Heenan Doherty <heenandoherty@gmail.com> wrote:

> G'day,
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> > There are many people out there wanting to learn about permaculture and
> > they are from an amazing array of learning habits and cultures.
> > As long as the principles and objectives are clear, the methods will
> > work for different participants.
> > After teaching online for 20 years I can confidently say Ihave had to
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