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["Frances and David" <fdnokes@hotmail.com>]

This actually happened in our neighbourhood.
A lot was close to cleared!  And then, in a freakish storm, so many other 
trees came down in a neighbouring lot
It took a lot of talking to try and get the town bureaucrats to understand 
this connection (their response was to want to cut down a lot more trees in 
pubic space in order to prevent this problem rather than acknowledging that 
by allowing a huge clearing on a particular lot, the damage to the trees 
infrastructure occurred. Apparently, the underground infrastructure is key 
as is the trees natural sense of which trees are on the outside and the 
types of relative holding power invested therein.  As in, the tree on the 
outside gets the stronger resistance to the wind.
Fran
P.S. One of the  trees in our yard in question is a questionable choice 
originally, given its proximity to the house.   Yet the house stands solidly 
and the birds have not complained either...
P.P.S. Oh, it is a hard one!  This culling of trees. Took me a long time as 
a librarian, too, to face up to the task of culling of books, and yet, it 
does offer vitality to what remains, allowing what still stands to shine 
forth more brightly...   I have found, in my pruning experience, that the 
plants actually value the attention... Perhaps this evolution is meant to 
happen in harmony, plant and animals with people, and not alone.

-----Original Message----- 
From: John D'hondt
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:53 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] types of woods and their uses


Very good advice Bob. Also, I'd be carefull what I did after the first year.
Where we live in Ireland taking one tree down could bring all the rest down
around our ears with the first good storm.
John

> "Wait one year."  Each of those trees may represent years of growth and is
> an
> asset.  You may eventually decide to remove some of them, but I think it
> would
> be helpful if you waited a full year and experienced the four seasons with
> your
> present situation before deciding anything so radical as removing trees.
>
> The biggest mistake, imho, that most people make with land is moving too
> quickly.  "Long and thoughtful observation" is always the first step in
> permaculture design.  That's why a permaculture wisdom saying is "Wait One
> Year".
>
> Bob Waldrop
> http://www.ipermie.net
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Frances and David <fdnokes@hotmail.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Wed, January 30, 2013 1:43:10 PM
> Subject: [permaculture] types of woods and their uses
>
> It looks as if we are going to stay settled for now...  And act as if we
> own the
> place.  By that I mean that we would begin to maximize the space for
> growing.
> And do some serious pruning and removal of trees on our property that are
> ‘ready
> to go’ and/or seriously block the sun from the yard as conscience permits.
> What I am contemplating is that this is a golden opportunity to learn more
> about
> trees’ woods and what they work well for...
> Which ones are good for huglekultur (sp?), composting, fungi/rot barrier,
> carving into eating implements, utensils, buttons, etc. (My mind is a
> little
> frozen at the moment)
>
> Would anyone have any idea of such a database of information?
> Just thought I’d start by asking this highly resourceful group of people.
> Other than that, I can start by looking up the individual species as well
> as
> seeing what resources I can locate on my topic!
> There is also a wood turner in our area that I intend to look up when we
> are
> back home, and he would also likely have something to say on the matter.
>
> Cheers!
> Frances
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