permaculture

[Oystein Tandberg <oystein_tandberg@yahoo.no>]

Hi from Norway, 

the country with the Svaldbard seedvault - and politicians that give the 
Nobel peace price to people like Henry Kissinger, who gave us Agribusienss 
with the justification that: - "Control oil and you control nations; control 
food and you control the people."

Regarding India: "....Mr Sainath quoted the National Crime Records Bureau’s 
latest report on ‘Accidental Deaths & Suicides in India’ as placing the 
number for 2010 at 15,964.  “That brings the cumulative 16-year total from 
1995 -- when the NCRB started recording farm suicide data -- to 256,913, the 
worst-ever recorded wave of suicides of this kind in human history." 
”http://www.gasandoil.com/oilaround/other/b347e66d002fde20ba20aeb6356ea558
 
These are just the cases that has been reported.. 

Best regards
Øystein Tandberg


--- Den man 2012-04-30 skrev John D'hondt <dhondt@eircom.net>:

> Fra: John D'hondt <dhondt@eircom.net>
> Emne: Re: [permaculture] The next World food crisis?
> Til: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Dato: Mandag 30. april 2012 20.51
> 
> I have never seen gmo plants as anything else than sick.
> When humans have 
> extra DNA as in Down syndrome that does the individuals not
> much good. More 
> is not better!
> Why would it be different in plants? Of course these are
> usually annual 
> crops thus short lived and it is for humans not easy to see
> the health 
> problems they have.
> Tens of thousands of farmers in India have already comitted
> suicide because 
> their low producing gmo plants bancrupted them. Only in
> places where rich 
> farmers can afford fertilizers and irrigation water have gmo
> plants some 
> chance.
> 
> What I also think is that extreme expensive commodities make
> for better 
> profits for big companies. When food or oil are cheap there
> is less to be 
> made for the big companies. Only with rising prices do they
> get record 
> profits.
> And I could take this thought one step further; I have heard
> farmers 
> complain that there is only gmo seed still to be bought
> these days. Guess 
> which company has the best stocks of non gmo seeds? Right,
> Monsanto. They 
> will make sure to win whatever happens.
> john
> 
> > According to news reports, the price for soya has risen
> nearly to the 
> > record levels it reached during the first global food
> crisis in 2007-8. 
> > Droughts in Argentine, Brazil and Uruguay are cited as
> the reason for the 
> > price increase.  I think it is safe to assume that
> most soya crops grown 
> > in Argentine, Brazil and Uruguay are GMO crops.
> >
> > Even though these GMO crops may not have been
> engineered for drought 
> > resistance, it nevertheless seems to indicate that
> industrial farming 
> > using GMOs is less capable of coping with drought than
> sustainable farming 
> > methods increasing humus levels and soil water
> retention.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Dieter
> >
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