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[john douglas <johnarthurdouglas99@yahoo.com>]

see you tube donperezoso and www.organicpanamapermaculture.com and 
www.organicopanamapermacultura.yolasite.com
 
Ice Cream Bean trees Rock on the
Lazy Mans´ Farm. 
What grows with that fruit tree?
We have about ten times more support plants than fruit trees which is crazy,
nuts and stupid except that it works because
they use their relationships to work together. 
The majority of our support
plants are balo (gliricidia sepium) which the locals use by jamming the
branches into the ground and making live fences and that’s it. When the balo
grows, the branches are an irritating waste for the locals to dispose of.  
For us they are an excellent resource as we
chop and drop the branches around the fruit trees resulting them for a mulch,
high nitrogen fertilizer and insect repellent. Except for the garden, we do 
not
make traditional compost. We chop and drop the branches around the base of the
tree. I am the Lazy Farmer. 
Tea made from the stripped off
leaves makes a foliar spray giving explosive growth and it kills leaf miners
and other pests. And the cost is??? Nada!!!  Rough up some leaves and half 
fill a bucket with them, fill with water
and leave for a day. Strain out the leaves and spray on your plants leaves. It
works great. 
We just finished marking off
several paths using the balo stakes for border markers. Another use for a 
great
multi use plant. Here are some Permaculture principles. Multiple uses and 
have what you need close at hand. 
Along the same paths are flowers
but not just for decoration, they also give lots of bio-mass and/or fix
nitrogen to benefit the fruit trees.
Avoid having things for just one reason. 
Under the trees you may find
forage peanut to control weeds and erosion, fix nitrogen and make bio-mass. We
at times also have plants such as sweet potato, squash and taro (root crop) to
work together productively. Use the
different levels of space and time simulating nature. 
.There also are some hot peppers
which are edible, sellable and repellents.  
Ice Cream Bean trees branches
curve back down to the ground so at the Lazy Mans´ Farm there are food
producing vines climbing them.  Why build
support structures? Benches and tires planted in the ground under an ICB tree
give us a nice little park. I know, I know, I should be building all of that
out of concrete. I´m sorry but I am the Lazy Farmer. J. In the photo you can 
see some ways that we use this
tree. I hope that you can make out the vines climbing up into the tree. 
ICB is a nitrogen fixer which
also drops lots of leaf litter. I saw a pineapple almost as big as my stomach
that was grown using the rich dirt harvested from under an ice cream bean 
tree.
AWESOME! 
We have mentioned that we use,
among various other plants, Balo, ICB and forage peanut for fixing nitrogen. 
Have more than one source for what you want.
Balo gives light shade while ICB gives heavy shade.  Forage peanut is a 
ground cover. When would
you use one versus the other? Now you are doing Permaculture design.  
I always enjoy finding those
tricky ways to live lazy. 
  
    
Ice
Cream Bean Rocks …El Arbol de Guaba es Fantastico   
  
 Permaculture really aint that tough. It is all about relationships. No
more than that. 
 The emphasis on
observations and duh-un questions keep us constantly improving. The brilliant
answer is so obvious when finally we get it. But the most obvious answers are
often most elusive. 
 I just want to
share what´s been working for us.  Permaculture is a fascinating productive 
game.  
My goal is to have a bunch of useful info on line
available to all in English and Spanish. So here goes. 
  
The following is for those who, like me, have an
innate lack of intellect. I proudly claim responsibility for all errors,
stupidity, idiocy, and any disasters that may result from following anything I
say. Said responsibility will never include money. 
Here is my memory game summary of Perezoso
Permaculture. 
Please imagine and visualize three hot chicks holding
up a mountain of beans.                                                       
                             The mountain has beans of all colors, sizes
and shapes.                                                            On
top of Bean Mountain is a garbage can.                                        
                                             A tree grows out of the Garbage 
Can.                                                                          
                     On the tree stands a man with question marks
swirling around his head.                                  WOW, there is a 
chicken on his head, pouring
blood, shot through and through with arrows passing in and out.               
                                                                              
                                                             Wounded 
desperately, her talons heroically
clutch a test tube.  
Now to explain. 
The three hot chicks are sisters known throughout
antiquity as “The Three Sisters” of the American Indians. The Three Sisters
represented the combination of growing corn, beans and squash together. The
corn supports the beans vines which climb up it. The beans fix nitrogen into
the soil to fertilize all three. The squash spreads out over the ground
controlling the weeds. Now those hotties are asking … Why should we buy
fertilizer or put support stakes in the ground or weed? The plants do it all
for us.  The Indians never heard the word
Permaculture, but it still is all about
relationships. 
Bean Mountain tells us to plant way too much, too much
biodiversity and too many plants.  
Garbage Can hollers out “The secret is in the
garbage.” Keep it simple. Abandon the complicated paths. 
Thomas Tree reminds us to ask how often per year we
will visit any given part of the design. Things like gardens, chickens and
lemon trees you want close to your house. Trees for lumber would be far away. 
Why, when, where, how, what kind and why again are the
questions that swirl about our hero’s head during his observation process.  
Arrows passing into and out of the Chelsey Chicken
tell us that we need to think about the needed inputs and outputs of all our
creatures. Chickens for example scratch, lose feathers and poop. Can we make
use of these outputs? How? 
Experiment screams Tomas Testtube. Just make the
experiments so small that they use almost no time or space. You will have fun
and learn a bunch. 
These are my mental hooks for designing with Perezoso
(lazy) Permaculture principles. 
  
  
Siguiendo en
mi Español horrible… (Perdóname, es  lo
mejor que puedo hacer.) 
Two for one 
English  
Yesterday
weeding the tropical garden became almost pleasant when I found that I can
throw the dreaded “always lives” vines to the chickens for their daily dose of
vitamins, minerals and orange yolk healthiness.  We also put the small 
chicken tractor on some of the beds for the same
end. 
Back in my
other life, multiple wives ago, weeding the garden morphed from nasty to an
almost welcome job when I discovered that most Wisconsin garden weeds are 
great
eating. We Permaculturists always get hot in the undies when we can kill a
flock of birds with one stone. 
Another
tropical second use is for chayote. Most of us do fine treating it like
zucchini. One difference is that chayote stays crunchier. To the point that,
because of fighting constant rumors, McDonalds had to officially state that
their apple pies are filled, not with chayote but with actual apples. So if 
you
have more chayote than apples, think about using chayote with sugar and
cinnamon for a desert or apple cider vinegar, raisins, onions, brown sugar and
such for an apple chutney. Use it on chicken, with cheddar cheese or topping a
bean dish. 
Capitulo uno 
Que
pasa con y crece con un árbol de fruta. Nosotros tememos como diez veces más
plantas que apoyan que la cuantidad de árboles frutales. Eso es tonto, loco y
estúpido pero sirve porque las plantas
usan sus relaciones con las otras para trabajar juntos. 
Las
mayorías de las plantas que apoyan son balo, (gliricidia sepium) que los
locales usan para hacer cercas vivas y no más. Cuando las estacas crecen, las
ramas que resultan son una basura que necesitan eliminar por quemando u otra
manera. Nosotros cortamos y dejamos las ramas y hojas alrededor de los 
frutales
para hacer una composta alto en nitrógeno y repelente de los bichos encima del
suelo. Esta técnica es Perezoso. No hacemos compostas clásicos, solamente
cortamos y dejamos alrededor las arboles frutales. 
 Té de las hojas hace un espray foliar para
abonar, repelar y matar bichos. Cuánto cuesta? Nada. Ponga hojas en un tanque,
llena con agua y deja por un día. Fumiga las hojas. Sirve bien. 
 La semana pasada marcamos unos caminos con
estacas de balo. Lo idea es que es mejor a tener una planta para muchos usos.
Aquí hay unos principios de Permacultura.
Múltiple maneras para usar sus cosas y tenga más preciso adónde va a usar. 
Alrededor
de los mismos caminos hay flores pero no solamente para decoración. Ellos
también dan mucho material orgánico que usamos para abono y/o fijar nitrógeno
para beneficiar los árboles frutales. Evita
tener cosas solamente para una razón.  
Abajo
los arboles frutales puedes encontrar maní forrajero para controlar maleza y
erosión, fija nitrógeno y hacer material orgánico. Tenemos plantas como 
camote,
zapallo y otoe abajo para usar los espacios, trabajar juntos y productivamente
ya que estas crecen bien bajo un poco de sombra. Usa diferente niveles de
espacio y tiempo simulando la naturaleza. Si siembra un árbol de fruta para 
cosechar
tienes que esperar por lo menos tres años en este tiempo puedes haber sembrado
otros cultivos temporales, asi das mejor cuidado a tu árbol y tienes más
producción. Usa plantas de diferentes
tiempos para cosechar más. 
También
hay ají picante que son comida, repelente de bichos y para vender. 
 Las ramas de los árboles de Guaba (otros
nombres en español, Joaquiniquil,
Mex. cuaniquil, guama)  se inclinan
al suelo así en la finca de los Perezosos hay bejucos de comidas que crecen
sobre estos árboles. Porqué construir estructuras?  Bancos y llantas  abajo 
este árbol de guabas hacen un bonito
parque. Yo sé, Yo sé. Debo hacer todo esto con concreto. Pero, soy Don 
Perezoso
;-) Viste la foto para ver unas maneras que podemos usar solamente un árbol.
Espero que pueda ver los bejucos subiendo este árbol en la foto. 
 Este árbol fija nitrógeno y deja caer muchas
hojas al suelo lo cual hace mi suelo cada vez más rico. Vi una piña casi el
mismo tamaño de  mi estómago. Ay Mami.  Esta fue una semilla de piña que 
sembraron y
como abono usaron el suelo rico que estaba abajo un árbol de guaba. Guau.  
Cuando
encontramos maneras en que podemos vivir más Perezoso y más eficiente, la vida
es mejor.  
CAPITUOLO DOS 
Permacultura Perezosa 
Permacultura
no es difícil. Es completamente sobre
relaciones. No más que eso. 
El énfasis
es sobre observaciones y preguntas que a veces parece tonto pero ellos
mantienen el proceso de mejorando constantemente. Lo más obvio frecuentemente
es lo más difícil para ver. 
Quiero
compartir que sirve para nosotros. Permacultura es un juego fascinando y 
productivo.  
Mi meta es
tener información en el internet disponible en inglés y, en particular,
español.  
Siguiendo es
un huego de memoria para aprender y recordar los principales de Permacultura
Perezosa. 
Imagina y
vísala tres chicas muy guapas apoyando un montaña de frijoles.                
         Esta montaña tiene
frijoles de todas las  variedades,
tamaños y colores.                              Encima esta montaña hay un 
tanque llena de basura.                                                       
           Creciendo desde este tanque de
basura hay un árbol con un hombre encima. Volando alrededor su cabeza hay los
marques de las preguntas.                                                     
                                         Encima de su cabeza encontramos una 
gallina con flechas paseando adentro
y afuera su cuerpo.                                                           
                                                                              
                 Con sangre corriendo desde su cuerpo, ella fuertemente tiene 
un tubo
de  vidrio para pruebas científico.  
Vamos a
explicar. 
Las tres
chicas son las ansiosas “tres hermanas” de los Indios de las Américas. Las 
tres
hermanas son maíz, frijoles y zapallo. El maíz apoya los bejucos de los 
frijoles.
Los frijoles fijan nitrógeno para los tres. El zapallo cubre el suelo y
controla la maleza. 
 Las tres hermanas preguntan, porque debemos
comprar abono o hace estacas para apoyar o limpiar las malezas. Las plantas
hacen todos para nosotros. Los indios nunca escucharon la palabra 
Permacultura,
pero, todavía es
completamente sobre relaciones.  
Los frijoles
dicen siembra demasiada diversidad y demasiado cuantidades de plantas. 
“El secreto
es en la basura” explica el tanque de basura. Mantenga formas sencillo. Lucha
contra maneras complicado. 
El árbol nos
recuerda evaluar cuantas veces por año necesita visitar cada creatura. Huertos
y pollos necesitamos visitar cada día, por eso tengamos cerca Nos casa. 
Arboles
de madera va a visitar muy poco. Siembra lejos de su casa. 
Por qué,
cuando, cuando, que y cuantos son las preguntas que volean alrededor la cabeza
de nuestro héroe durante el proceso de observación 
Las flechas
que pasan adentro y afuera del cuerpo de pobre gallina indican que necesitamos
entender las necesitas de los creaturas. También, entienda que las creaturas
dan. Por ejemplo pollos dan plumas, calor, pupú y  rascan. Como podemos usar 
estos vainas de los
pollos. 
Desde
el  tubo de pruebas científico,
aprendemos qué es bueno hacer muchos experimentos. Haga sus experimentos tan
chicos así son divertido y no molestan. Va a disfrutar y aprender mucho. 
Mantenga
estas ideas en mi mente para desenar usando los principales de Permacultura. 
  
  
Capitulo tres  dos por uno 
Ayer limpiando maleza desde mi huerto cambió hizo más  fácil cuando descubrí 
que puedo echar
“siempre vive” a los pollos para sus vitaminas, minerales y yemas naranja. A
veces usamos el tractor de pollos encima un parte de huerto para la misma 
meta. 
Hace muchos años, descubrí que podía comer las malezas en
Wisconsin. Muy rica cada uno. Después limpiando mi huerto en Wisconsin pasaba
mejor. 
  
Otra manera a usar cosas en múltiple maneras es con chayote.
McDonald’s dice oficialmente que sus pies de manzana tienen manzana y no
chayote. Chayote mantiene su textura crujiente cuando cocina. Entonces puede
usar con azúcar y canela para dulces or con vinagre de manzana, cebolla,
pasitas y azúcar moreno para hacer chutney. Usa su chaya para imitar manzana. 
Permacultureros siempre son felices cuando pueden usar algo
para más que una razón. 

john   Don Perezoso = The Lazy Farmer ....THE SECRET IS IN THE GARBAGE

English Videos
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfQkPdiZWRU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCCajj2rfEY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO39F9beTNQ 
WEBSITE        http://www.organicpanamapermaculture.com/ 

Español    SITIO de WEB      http://organicopanamapermacultura.yolasite.com/ 
VIDEO ...YOUTUBE 
BUSCAR PARA ...Donperezoso      Sin espacio
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=donperezoso&aq=f

 

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Hi Eric,

re: permaculture books in spanish, I think Eugenio Gras wrote a book on
this topic recently.  Perhaps Darren or someone else on the list knows
more, title, where to find it.  Just a thought, it might be worth bringing
a diversity of perspectives with you.  Let me know if you find this book
and the cost.

best of luck this sounds like a really exciting opportunity.
Neil

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Eric Broberg <narthexdreams@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hi all,
> In a couple months, I am starting an agriculture assignment with the Peace
> Corps in the Dominican Republic involving organic cacao and coffee
> production. I wanted to ask if anyone has contacts to individuals and
> organizations in the DR that are involved in Permaculture, cacao or coffee.
> Really any information, stories, or articles you have on those subjects
> would be appreciated. And, finally, if you just want to put in your two
> cents and keep in touch, please do. E-mail me at eric_broberg@hotmail.com,
> because I am not able to check this list-serv very often.
>
> Also, I would like to bring as many copies as possible of the
> bookIntroduccion a la Permacultura (the Spanish-language version of
> Introduction to Permaculture) by Bill Mollison, to give to interested
> people and groups within the DR. The country has not had much exposure to
> Permaculture, the first PDC taking place there only in 2011. Unfortunately,
> I personally can't afford to buy more than one copy of the book, which is
> priced at $39.98 on abebooks.com (
> http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&tn=introduccion+permacultura&x=0&y=0)
> and $49.95 on amazon (
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0908228090/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1325914428&sr=8-1&condition=new
> ).
>
> If you have a copy of the book and would like to donate it, please e-mail
> me at eric_broberg@hotmail.com. If you would like to donate enough money
> to buy a book via paypal or some other means, please e-mail as well (or use
> the above e-mail as my paypal e-mail.) I will let you know who ends up with
> the book, and why they deserve to have it!
>
> Thanks so much,
> Eric Broberg
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> Has anyone written a book on the topic of masting yet from an international 
> perspective? Probably needs to be done.
It is at times like this, I wish that there was a bootstrapper.com site, that 
mirrored Kickstarter.� Instead of folks announcing their projects, potential 
funders could suggest ideas that they are willing to help fund, and hope that 
somebody will rise to the challenge.

If I ever get to another permaculture conference, I will be sure that my 
first question to Bill Mollison will be about masting.� I'll be he could talk 
for hours on this subject.

Still looking for more info myself and I will post as I find.

This is not a bad starter page on the topic.

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/fr036

I will see if I can locate some of the references.
There seems to be lots of stuff on Google Scholar but a lot of it needs 
translating from complex academic into standard English ;-)

Chris