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  • From: christopher nesbitt <christopher.nesbitt@mmrfbz.org>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Fwd: Biochar
  • Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:11:04 -0600

We are working on a new design, and I will be updating our web page, soon.
Will share pictures as soon as I get a camera!



On Nov 15, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Jay Woods wrote:

> On Monday, November 14, 2011 11:48:12 PM christopher nesbitt wrote:
>> Lawrence,
>>
> ...
>> We are working on developing a home stove at low cost for families who burn
>> wood for cooking here in southern Belize. This is an alternative for rural
>> people who cannot afford the natural gas/propane/butane/fossil fuel that
>> people in more developed countries use. We have a design that uses a 55
>> gallon drum and a welded old propane tank. Total cost? About USD75, less
>> than the price of two full tanks of propane, and it gives heat for
>> cooking, has fairly complete combustion, and leaves us with carbon to bury
>> in the soil. This is not an industrial byproduct, or a way to make money.
>> It is a way for small farmers to improve their soils while sequestering
>> carbon (generated in natural gas/propane/butane/fossil fuel run stoves,
>> for example), while getting the heat they need to do their cooking.
>>
> I checked your website for more information (esp., construction) without
> any
> luck. Can you guide me on this?
>
> In addition, I need to set up a solar water pump (in the few gallons per
> day
> range). Do you have any further information beyond the name "Outback Power"?
> (I assume that this is http://www.outbackpower.com/ people.)
>
>> Again, I suggest anyone considering the merits, or lack of, of biochar, to
>> read Albert Bates book, "The Biochar Solution". That is one way to become
>> an informed person on the subject.
>>
>> Christopher
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2011, at 11:01 PM, Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:
>>> On 11/14/2011 5:31 PM, John D'hondt wrote:
>>>> They don't yet know how it works? But they are already telling everybody
>>>> how to make it? Burning the planet to cool it?
>>>> If it were not for the very name which comes under the heading of
>>>> "new-speak" in Brave New World more people might wonder if it worked at
>>>> all as do I. Bio means life and char means coal and freedom is slavery
>>>> and war is peace.
>>>
>>> Its all about using an industrial (probably wasteful and polluting
>>> processes) byproduct to create another product to market for high dollar.
>>>
>>> It does not make any sense to char biomass to make charcoal that then
>>> must be pulverized and field spread (often using fossil fuel) when all
>>> that needs to be done is to allow weeds to control weeds, crimp or roll
>>> them to make a semi living mulch that controls weeds, adds seeds and
>>> organic matter to soil to increase OM and eventually humus while
>>> significantly building soil quality and productive capacity.
>>>
>>> Thumbs up for notill agriculture (and minimum till).
>>>
>>> LL
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>> _____________________________
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>>
>> Maya Mountain Research Farm
>> San Pedro Columbia, Toledo
>> PO 153 Punta Gorda Town, Toledo
>> BELIZE,
>> Central America
>>
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Christopher Nesbitt

Maya Mountain Research Farm
San Pedro Columbia, Toledo
PO 153 Punta Gorda Town, Toledo
BELIZE,
Central America

www.mmrfbz.org







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