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[Jay Woods <woodsjay@cox.net>]

On Monday, November 14, 2011 11:48:12 PM christopher nesbitt wrote:
> Lawrence,
> 
... 
> We are working on developing a home stove at low cost for families who burn
> wood for cooking here in southern Belize. This is an alternative for rural
> people who cannot afford the natural gas/propane/butane/fossil fuel that
> people in more developed countries use. We have a design that uses a 55
> gallon drum and a welded old propane tank. Total cost? About USD75, less
> than the price of two full tanks of propane, and it gives heat for
> cooking, has fairly complete combustion, and leaves us with carbon to bury
> in the soil. This is not an industrial byproduct, or a way to make money.
> It is a way for small farmers to improve their soils while sequestering
> carbon (generated in natural gas/propane/butane/fossil fuel run stoves,
> for example), while getting the heat they need to do their cooking.
> 
I checked your website for more information (esp., construction) without any 
luck. Can you guide  me on this?

In addition, I need to set up a solar water pump (in the few gallons per day 
range). Do you have any further information beyond the name "Outback Power"?
(I assume that this is http://www.outbackpower.com/ people.)

> Again, I suggest anyone considering the merits, or lack of, of biochar, to
> read Albert Bates book, "The Biochar Solution". That is one way to become
> an informed person on the subject.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> On Nov 14, 2011, at 11:01 PM, Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:
> > On 11/14/2011 5:31 PM, John D'hondt wrote:
> >> They don't yet know how it works? But they are already telling everybody
> >> how to make it? Burning the planet to cool it?
> >> If it were not for the very name which comes under the heading of
> >> "new-speak" in Brave New World more people might wonder if it worked at
> >> all as do I. Bio means life and char means coal and freedom is slavery
> >> and war is peace.
> > 
> > Its all about using an industrial (probably wasteful and polluting
> > processes) byproduct to create another product to market for high dollar.
> > 
> > It does not make any sense to char biomass to make charcoal that then
> > must be pulverized and field spread (often using fossil fuel) when all
> > that needs to be done is to allow weeds to control weeds, crimp or roll
> > them to make a semi living mulch that controls weeds, adds seeds and
> > organic matter to soil to increase OM and eventually humus while
> > significantly building soil quality and productive capacity.
> > 
> > Thumbs up for notill agriculture (and minimum till).
> > 
> > LL
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> Christopher Nesbitt
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> Maya Mountain Research Farm
> San Pedro Columbia, Toledo
> PO 153 Punta Gorda Town, Toledo
> BELIZE,
> Central America
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