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  • From: ChildrensPeaceGuild <childrenspeaceguild@yahoo.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Masanobu Fukuoka in Greece
  • Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:46:17 -0700 (PDT)

That was the name I couldn't remember....
 



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From: Dieter Brand <diebrand@yahoo.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 12:58:33 AM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Masanobu Fukuoka in Greece

He visited Manikis' Farm.  Manikis has a five acre orchard.  There have been
annual seedball making events at his farm during a few consecutive years with
people from different countries staying at his place for a week or so during
the
summer to make a few tons of seedballs, which are then distributed over the
Greek countryside.  As far as I know, the results haven't been very
encouraging.

Dieter Brand
Portugal

PS: Manikis isn't on the net, but you should be able to get his contact
details
with a Google search.  He does accept visitors to stay at his farm.



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Subject: Re: [permaculture] Feeding wild bees during Winter - how to do it?
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On 10/9/2010 8:04 PM, Kelly Simmons wrote:
> There is no need to feed bees in the winter. For the most part, they
> are in a semi-dormant cluster, are unable to fly anyway, and so would be
> unable to partake of your gift. Bees cannot fly in temperatures below 50
> degrees fahrenheit. Unless your spring and summer have been unusually
> absent of flowering trees and other plants, the bees will have put up
> more than enough food for the winter. Wild bees have few needs that
> humans can supply! How refreshing!
>
> Bees are opportunists and if a food source is nearby and discovered
> before their winter dormancy, then they will definitely take advantage
> of the resource - hence the attraction of hundreds of bees to your
> compost pile.
>
> If you are wanting to assist them, the best ways to do so are to protect
> the tree or cavity that they are nesting in, plant maple, linden and
> other flowering trees in their vicinity, locate a water source near
> their nest for spring, summer and fall that is set up to prevent them
> from drowning, and plant a variety of flowering medicinal plants such as
> catnip, mints, thymes and such so that they can self-medicate as they
> need to, and most especially lobby your neighbors NOT use pesticides and
> herbicides on their properties.

Hello Kelly:

Thanks for this fantastic and complete answer to my question. Shows how
little I know about bees. I had several hives years ago but after two
years moths infested the hives and the bees swarmed into the nearby
forests. This was 5 or 6 years ago. Since then I have improved the soil
on most of my 6 acres and let it go fallow allowing wildflowers and wild
grasses to become established. These fields are now filled with plants
they can forage from, tulip poplar, daisies, goldenrod and many other
wildflowers and wild fruits. The daisies are heavy-stemmed perennials
with small fragrant blooms. The bees are all over these plants now as
they bloom this time of year. Not only bees but over a dozen other
pollen-gathering insects, a fascinating sight to watch at mid-day. I
expect the bees will gather quite a supply of food for the winter from
these daisies, goldenrod and many other plants. In Spring they have
tulip poplar, eleagnus, milkweed and much else to forage from. I have
plenty of peppermint, spearmint, lemonbalm, blackberries
as well and will see to it that get more herbs planted in areas where it
will flourish without supplemental irrigation. I grow vegetables and
herbs for market so I was delighted to see so many bees this year. Every
year from the time I took my hives down until this Spring I have only
seen a few dozen bees during the warm months. So, this is the first time
I became aware that there is a significant healthy hive or hives nearby.
They are probably in the forests as I know of no beekeepers in the
neighborhood. My contribution to the bees, this and every year following
will be to preserve and nurture the wildflower populations and trees on
my property. I don't know if there is any connection, but last winter I
cut down and recycled the wood (branches make great deer fencing) from
about 16 large Eastern red cedar trees, several ash and two dying
poplars which were shading over an acre of prime garden beds. Now I have
much more light and all the annuals and perennials in the fields are
thriving like never before, including the daisies, which I will now,
wherever they are located, treat as important permanent wildflower
gardens. I also have much food for the birds, foxtail millet, amaranth,
lambs quarters, crabgrass and Johnson grass.

For watering the bees, what sort of location do they need, pond
shallows, shallow wet weather pools, wetlands, containers or just what?

> and plant a variety of flowering medicinal plants such
> as catnip, mints, thymes and such so that they can self-medicate as
> they need to,

I will make plans to get beds of these started.

> and most especially lobby your neighbors NOT use
> pesticides and herbicides on their properties.

_That_ I tirelessly campaign for and have succeeded in convincing
my nextdoor neighbors to avoid using such things in their yards.
I think there is little use of such things in the neighborhood (one
square mile at a minimum).

LL




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