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[Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>]

I hear you. Ignoring uncivil communication can be an effective tool when 
responding only seems to feed it more. 

I really value the wisdom and experience that has been shared on this list; 
what a treasure, to have all this varied experience and dedication in one 
place! All of you who share your knowledge here, I thank you deeply! It is 
really appreciated. If my engaging in debate has discouraged anybody who has 
knowledge to share from partaking, I apologize. I have gotten some great 
information from individuals on the list and I really enjoy being able to 
dialogue with the varied and intelligent viewpoints here, and to hear what 
different people are doing with permaculture around the world. 

My own policy on lists where debate is allowed is to use the delete button 
liberally when I feel it is becoming unconstructive. The beauty of the 
internet is that you do not have to open or read any email you don't want to 
read. It's not like someone is standing in front of you shouting at you, 
though sometimes an angry email can feel like that! I'll share a Lakota story 
that seems to have relevance, in another post. 

Cory  

--- On Mon, 9/20/10, Scott Pittman <scott@permaculture.org> wrote:

> From: Scott Pittman <scott@permaculture.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Enough, ......Genug, ........Basta, 
> ........Bastamante, .....
> To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Monday, September 20, 2010, 3:17 PM
> Weeds can be banned from the garden
> and relegated to the compost pile, or,
> as I do, left as mulch around my tomatoes and squash to
> cool the soil, add
> carbon, and suppress other weeds.
> 
> Shunning is an old tried and true method of dealing with
> out of control
> elements of a society, just don't respond, this is a lesson
> I have often
> been unable to practice, but I am getting better.
> 
> Scott Pittman
> Director
> Permaculture Institute
> www.permaculture.org
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LBUZZELL@aol.com
> [mailto:LBUZZELL@aol.com]
> 
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:07 PM
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Enough, ......Genug,
> ........Basta,........Bastamante, .....
> 
> I keep wondering if there is a permaculture way we can deal
> with the  
> "social ecology"/guilds on lists like this one. Banning
> people ("weeds"?) is
> 
> certainly one way, but perhaps there are other ways as well
> to build healthy
> 
> guilds of very diverse people to create a productive online
> communication  
> ecosystem? And perhaps some of those "weeds" have
> beneficial characteristics
> 
> to  contribute to the whole?
>  
> Linda
>  
>  
> In a message dated 9/20/2010 11:25:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight
> Time,  
> trrredding@gmail.com
> writes:
> 
> I think  every list goes through this up and down
> process I hope we weather
> it ok  and keep moving forward!
> 
> --
> Trudie's  gmail
> trrredding@gmail.com
> Please use this email address for any  personal
> messages
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] 
> On Behalf Of Andrew McSwain
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 12:27  PM
> To: permaculture
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Enough, ......Genug, 
> ........Basta,
> ........Bastamante, ...........Goodbye,
> .......Fairwell,  .........Best
> Wishes
> 
> that's too bad. I hope no one else follows  suit. The
> negativity expressed 
> by
> the few over a period of months does not  represent
> the totality of this
> forum's worth- of what it can give to you  and what
> you can give to it over
> the years. A little spurt of disunion over  political
> grounds is no reason 
> to
> stop collaborating, networking, and  building a body
> of practical and
> theoretical permaculture  knowledge.
> 
> Why give up the 90% because 10% of it is bad?
> 
> That's  not good permaculture practice.
> 
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Dick  Pierce
> <dickpiercedesigns@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> Enough,......Genug,........Basta,........Bastamante,...........Goodbye,.....
> ..Fairwell,.........Best
> >  Wishes
> >
> > Good luck to all who frequent/contribute/comment
> on  this listserve. Good
> > luck and God-speed to all the wonderful 
> Permaculture teachers,
> > practitioners, advocates who daily take this 
> vital movement forward in
> > thoughts and deeds and legacies - bless you  all
> for what you do in the
> > world
> > and on the ground. Thanks  also to the real
> Permaculture Icons that 
> comment
> > on this list from  time to time - Toby Heminway
> coming to mind as one of
> >  these.
> >
> > My next act after sending this email is to
> unsubscribe  from this list. I
> > hope that I'll get enough PC info and insight
> from  other lists such as 
> the
> > W-MA PC-Guild and and AustiPerm, and other 
> more-focused and civil list
> > sites. I'm not asking you to stop what you  are
> doing, I'm just concluding
> > not to participate and get my info  elsewhere.
> >
> > Bye!
> >
> > Dick Pierce
> >
> > On  Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Lawrence F.
> London, Jr. <
> >  venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Beat  hostilities into wiki entries,
> > > wars are out there, just that, no  more
> > > distracting and deenergizing
> > > ignore it all and  concentrate on your
> favorite work
> > > as my Grandfather said, "keep  your mind on
> your business"
> > > Allen Chadwick said,
> > > "We  need to create the beauty and the
> quality  first.
> > > The  quantity will follow."
> > > 
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