permaculture

[Chris Watkins <chriswaterguy@appropedia.org>]

permaculture.info is still down, and I have heard nothing new about Rich
Morris. Does anyone else have news?

Appropedia.org is always open to permaculture information, but I know that
people put in a lot of work on permaculture.info. It would be a shame to
lose that.

(As mentioned, we also have publicly available dumps, so anyone with tech
skills on a server could set up a wiki with Appropedia's content in an hour
or two - should the worst happen.)


On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 15:14, Lawrence F. London, Jr. <
venaurafarm@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Chris Watkins wrote:
> > One of the important aspects of inviting people to contribute at
> > Appropedia.org (or any other wiki) is making sure that their work is
> > protected, and will be available in coming years, regardless of server
> > crash, unpaid bills, tech admin heart attacks or "zombie apocalypse" - or
> at
> > least, whatever unexpected event may happen. One way we do this is
> through
> > our publicly available site dumps (see Appropedia:Current
> > dump<http://www.appropedia.org/Appropedia:Current_dump>)
> > which anyone can download.
> >
> > What prompts this: There's still no sight of permaculture.info, and no
> > response by email from Rich Morris. I fear that the work that people have
> > put in may be lost, as with another wiki a saw disappear a few weeks ago.
> I
> > know there are some smaller permaculture wiki efforts out there - I hope
> > that they have publicly available backups as well.
> >
> > It's possible to go to the Special:Export page in a MediaWiki site and
> list
> > pages to download (use Special:Allpages to get page names)... I don't
> > suppose anyone thought to do this with permaculture.info?
> >
> > What I'd really appreciate is if those people here with sites, blogs,
> > facebook accounts or whatever, added a link to Appropedia and encouraged
> > their networks to contribute to a permanent and growing permaculture
> > knowledge base on Appropedia.
>
> Hello Chris!!
>
> Thanks for post about this!!
>
> OK then..
>
> permaculture.info is hosted by ibiblio but the nameserver is located
> at some place in France which is also the registrar. There appears to be
> a problem. I emailed ibiblio and they said that the French nameserver is
> no longer doing its job so the wiki is offline until that service is
> restored. The nameserver can be moved to ibiblio easily but that
> requires intervention by Scott who (PCInstitute) owns it. I have
> forwarded ibiblio's explanation of the problem and the solution to Scott
> and Rich but have not heard back.
> I have asked ibiblio to see if they can export the wiki data, i.e. all
> our work. They are looking into this, at any rate it is in the works. In
> the meantime they have installed MediaWiki and Semantic MediaWiki,
> Wordpress and soon SMF forums at ibiblio.org/permaculture
> and ibiblio.org/marketfarming for me. The latter is where I will wax
> exstatic about biological agriculture and the former (PC) is "ours",
> i.e. this list's community, to use however they see fit (i.e. import the
> data in permaculture.info, if possible); I will gladly give admin status
> to anyone wanting to work on this Permaculture Wiki. I would like to
> pick up where permaculture.info left off and continue indefinitely
> with projects and work that unfolds and coevolves within this community
> over time.
> For myself, I would rather do my PC wiki work here as I already have a
> lot of time invested in the ibiblio project as do the ibiblio admins.
> But I would like to collaborate with appropedia on any PC wiki
> development; perhaps the two systems can complement each other.
>
> What do you think?
>
> ...:LL
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