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  • From: John Fritz <johnfritz77@yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: [permaculture] video clip suggestions
  • Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 07:50:12 -0800 (PST)

I'd like to to see the Mike Oehler videos. 

John Fritz, NW Arkansas.



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Subject: Re: [permaculture] Haiti relief efforts
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Welcome Kevin!
Amy

At 10:13 PM 1/14/2010, you wrote:
>Hi Folks,
>
>I just got onto this list, and catching up with the posts on Haiti up to
>now.
>
>There is of course a lot that permaculture can bring to this first stage of
>emergency work, as Geoff and Andrew did in Kosovo, etc. I am not in any
>way opposed to people trying to work within the large aid agencies, USAID,
>UNICEF etc. It is much needed. But of course just making better refugee
>camps! is not where Permaculture is most effective, and lasting benefits are
>what people want to offer with any solidarity work. A lot of folks have
>already expressed this, realizing that "aid" is not enough.
>
>So what is the "permaculture way" of organizing relief?
>
>I propose it might look something like the following:
>
>People organize groups in their local communities to support local affinity
>groups going down to Haiti. This way people can do basic fundraising,
>establish communications and logistics support, etc from their home base so
>to speak. Small groups that are somewhat self sufficient will be less of a
>burden on the resources of local orgs on the ground in haiti. And people
>here will be more likely to go down if they know their family has some local
>support, their animals are fed and watered, someone is back at home ready to
>respond if one of their own is injured down there etc.
>
>Community-based organizing here, for community-based solidarity down there.
> If we have several local affinity groups that manage to get together, they
>can then coordinate at a wider level, sharing access to resources, working
>on projects, etc.
>
>Finding groups to work with on the ground in Haiti is key. Who are we going
>to be working with? What is their long term agenda? Is it led by the
>community? I think if people pay close attention it won't be hard to find
>local groups on the ground to ally with that share our basic values. I also
>think if people do not pay close attention, they might just be serving the
>interests of the "disaster capitalists" (read Naomi Klein if you haven't on
>this) instead of the people of Haiti.
>
>I think the folks at Grassroots Intl have been doing great work,
>http://www.grassrootsonline.org/news/press-releases/grassroots-international-establishes-earthquake-emergency-relief-fund-haiti
>and i would personally trust them to have good relationships on the ground.
>There are a LOT of local NGO's on the ground in Haiti, and i know that
>people have offered other suggestions. Whoever we work with, and hopefully
>it will be various groups, if they are locally led and community-based we
>will be doing well.
>
>I would like to help organize with anyone else who wants to from our area,
>the Hudson Valley area of NYS. There is some organizing going on down in
>the city with various activist groups, but not much yet from Permaculture
>identified folks here that I have heard of.
>
>I hope that there will be because i think there are much larger issues at
>stake here than just relief for people in Haiti. I think the more we are
>able to organize in our own local communities for future disasters, where
>ever they may be, the better off we all our. We gain so much; experienced
>activists coming back to their own communities to strengthen the movements
>there, networks of trust that can meet other needs beyond this one, etc etc.
> All of this will come in handy, i am sure.
>
>By doing community-based solidarity work we have as much to gain in our own
>communities as we have to give, and that is how it should be.
>
>solidarity,
>kevin
>
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