permaculture

[paul wheaton <paul@richsoil.com>]

The important thing is the scale.  And if we want to talk more about
the scale, I would be tickled pink to do so!  Most of the folks I have
talked with about it in the past are weary of hearing about it!  :)

There are three things I think of in the scale.

1)  It is an inverse logarithmic scale.  There are ten times more
people at level 5 than at level 6.  There are 100 times more people at
level 4 than level 6.

2)  The scale does not stop at 10.

3)  Somebody at level 8 might get pigeon-holed at 8 for a whole
different set of reasons than somebody else at level 8.

There are two people I am aware of that I currently think of as level
11.  And I think their lifestyle strikes me as slightly crazy.
Neither of them have written any books.  One of them does teach PDC's
once in a while.



On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Ben Martin
Horst<ben.martinhorst@gmail.com> wrote:
> Digressing...
>
> Not to ruffle any feathers or imply offense when there's none taken, but I
> think it might be good to examine some of the assumptions in "Level 10 = own
> property outright and have not visited a grocery store in over a year."
> Owning property outright would imply that the vast, overwhelming majority of
> the human population doesn't have a hope of attaining a high level of
> "eco-ness." The creative challenge is to lower inputs in general, not own
> property, necessarily.
>
> --Ben
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:21 PM, paul wheaton <paul@richsoil.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a theory that there is no "eco" and "not eco", but, rather, a
>> spectrum of eco.
>>
>> Level 0 = no eco
>> Level 1 = trying on some eco
>>
>> ....
>>
>> Level 5 = completed PDC
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Level 10 = own property outright and have not visited a grocery store
>> in over a year.
>>
>> -----
>>
>> To compound the theory, a lot of the people on, say, level 4, think
>> that the people at level 6 are cool and think that the people at level
>> 8 are crazy!  (pooping in a bucket, eating nettles, etc.).  Further,
>> they think that the people at level 2 are a little slow and that the
>> people at level 0 are destroying the world AND MUST BE STOPPED!
>>
>> -------
>>
>> So I think the thing to do is to help smooth the path from level 0 to
>> level 1, and from level 1 to level 2, etc.
>>
>> So .... in that vein ...  to smooth the path from level 0 to level 1
>> .... I would like to make fast food suggestions.  Of course, there are
>> a thousand suggestions to avoid fast food.  But I wish to make a
>> series of suggestions that are gradual.
>>
>> So ....   anybody know if any of the burger joints are moving away
>> from CAFOs and toward grass fed?  Or cutting way back on pesticides?
>> Any of the fast food joints doing anything honestly eco?
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