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[kenny swain <monkeywrenchsc@yahoo.com>]

Thanks to everyone who answered with suggestions.  There is no debate 
regarding whether they can stay.  I like the chicken solution the best, but 
need more immediate results and so i think I'll try the alcohol solution.  


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Scott Pittman wrote:
> The more of us who maintain vigilant oversight of the USDA the better!!
> Please let your views on GMO be known.  Check out the link below for the
> latest GMO regulations from the USDA.
>
> http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/content/2008/10/brs340.shtml

How "they" work to achieve their ends (the following excerpt seems consistent 
with current behavior):

*****
The Office of Strategic Services Sabotage (OSS) Manual has an interesting 
take on things. A VOL reader came across a
declassified manual on sabotage. In this manual, there is a section called 
"General Interference with Organizations and
Production". It looks as though it could have been written by a flunky at TEC 
HQ.

Among the items cited in the section:
(1) Insist on doing everything through "channels." Never permit short-cuts to 
be taken in order to expedite decisions.
(2) Make "speeches." Talk as frequently as possible and at great length. 
Illustrate your "points" by long anecdotes and
accounts of personal experiences. Never hesitate to make a few appropriate 
"patriotic" comments.
(3) When possible, refer all matters to committees, for "further study and 
consideration." Attempt to make the
committees as large as possible - never less than five.
(4) Bring up irrelevant issues as frequently as possible.
(5) Haggle over precise wordings of communications, minutes, resolutions.
(6) Refer back to matters decided upon at the last meeting and attempt to 
re-open the question of the advisability of
that decision.
(7) Advocate "caution." Be "reasonable" and urge your fellow-conferees to be 
"reason­able" and avoid haste, which might
result in embarrassments or difficulties later on.

*****