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  • From: Robyn Francis <erda@nor.com.au>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Tomorrow's Table: Organic Farming, Genetics, and the Future of Food
  • Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:56:46 +1100

I'm wondering since when did seed saving, sustainable agriculture,
appropriate tools and technology not relate to permaculture?
If this list is to only to involve permaculture for the permie purists,
perhaps you need to redefine what is and what is not permaculture.

One of the things I appreciate about this and the pc-oceania lists is the
interesting posts that keep me informed on related issues and news without
having to subscribe to dozens of specialist lists.

Ciao

Robyn


On 26/1/08 7:30 AM, "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflj@intrex.net> wrote:

> Keith Johnson wrote:
>
>> Organics AND genetic engineering? Release date Mar 2008.
>> (Links from Kim Stanley Robinson)
>>
>> Tomorrow's Table: Organic Farming, Genetics, and the Future of Food
>>
>> http://indica.ucdavis.edu/news/in-press-tomorrows-table
>
> Keith and others, including me:
>
> I just created sustag for sustainable agriculture discussion.
> I notice than many of us post ag related news and lots of other stuff
> not really related to permaculture to this list. I do this a lot
> but with reservation. I know you think this info is important for
> permaculture people to see and think about and respond to but does it
> really belong in a permaculture forum?
>
> I am leaning toward changing this forum to reflect exchange of ideas
> and resources that are strictly about permaculture and encourage those
> who want to stray from that usage to join and post to any of the
> other forums: seedsavers, approtech, sustag, marketfarming, scythe.
> This would help those forums become useful with a more robust exchange
> of resources while leaving this as a permaculture-only forum, or put
> differently,
> permaculture for the purists.
>
> The sustag list could be the catch-all or wide open forum while all the
> others
> would be tightly focused on its designated subject.
>
> A list as a blog is one thing but a list as a forum for vital exchange
> of well-focused information is quite another. Blogs are very open but a list
> can be like the original Usenet newsgroups, vital to those seriously
> involved
> with the subject covered by the forum.
>
> This is just a suggestion. What do you think? What is consensus?
> We can do nothing, individuals can act on their own initiative or we can
> decide as a group
> to change the way this forum functions and direct users to other lists on an
> ongoing basis.
> They could be directed to the homepage for this list where there would be a
> list of links
> to the other forums and external, non ibiblio, ones too.
>
> I for one, will follwo my own suggestion and post non or quasi permaculture
> posts to other forums.
>
> Then there is the issue of whether permaculture should be political or is it
> in some way a political movement.
> In that context posts about human or civil rights as well as general
> agriculture and environmental issues
> could be considered appropriate. I prefer not to go this route and instead
> send all of the above this to the sustag
> forum for the most part. It can be the environmental forum as well as one
> for
> sustainable agriculture. If I want to
> discuss farming per se I will use the market farming list or this one,
> especially if the topic fits both forums as with
> soil improvement, land management, water storage etc et.
>
> Ideas, suggestions?
>
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