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  • From: "Scott Pittman" <scott@permaculture.org>
  • To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Strictly Permaculture
  • Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:32:43 -0700

Permaculture is a design system for creating human settlement based on
natural systems and the wisdom of past sustainable cultures.

Permaculture in interested in everything that impinges on and sustains human
life, community, and a sustainable planet.

One would be hard pressed to find a subject that didn't interest and that
wasn't critical to permaculture practice.

While I think that a lot of the postings on this list carry on ad infinitum
on certain subjects, mostly the range of subjects is very creative and
helpful. I certainly could have used a few thousand megabytes less of the
SSE controversy. I have certainly contributed my share to the diatribe's
tribal gatherings in the past.

To leave out sustainable AG harkens to the suggestion a couple of years ago
that we leave forestry out of the permaculture discussion. Leaving out
either would cripple any discussion of sustainability - which is the end
goal of permaculture and nature.

Scott Pittman
Director
Permaculture Institute
www.permaculture.org
-----Original Message-----
From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence F.
London, Jr.
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:12 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Strictly Permaculture

Adrienne Rayna wrote:

> I'm pretty new to this list. An email in the archives about permaculture
ideas being applied to education to create what the author called 'green'
learning:
> (developing the same awareness and connection between the learner and
learned that a gardener has with the earth and plants and seasons, I think)
was what drew me to this list. I'm not a farmer, but see great potential in
applying the principles of permaculture to everything from social networks,
to business structures, to education. My Question is How Will Permaculture
be defined for your list? Agricultural Only?
>
> On the other hand I was overwhelmed with over 150 emails mostly containing
info on unscrupulous practices at SSE my first days of receiving! But
inspired immensly with pedal power and pull chains and Helix windmill ideas
for generating power. ( I guess these would belong to the inventors list?)
>
> Just A few thoughts for defining the list.

You might be interested in this post I found on the Web:

Building Food Production Into Land Use Planning
Marty Kraft
martyk@allspecies.org
Fri Jan 25 11:01:01 EST 2008

I would like to know what city governments can do to make it easier
for small scale food producers to be successful. What we find out for
our city could have application elsewhere.

As chair of the Local Foods Committee of the Environmental Management
Commission I am looking to explore the factors that would facilitate
local food production in and around Kansas City. The emphasis would
be on yard gardens and small scale producers. The effort should
encourage ecologically sustainable methods.

We could look at codes and zoning policies, land taxes or other ways
to encourage food production. We could also look into gardening
educational programs that the city might promote or sponsor that
could reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Our findings will be submitted
to the Environmental Management Commission and could find their way
into the City's Climate Protection Process.

Much of our work could be done by email with an occasional meeting.

If you are interested in participating please let me know. Or just
send the information you think would help with a request not to be
included in further emails to your personal accounts.

Thanks

Marty Kraft


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