permaculture

[christopher nesbitt <christopher.nesbitt@mmrfbz.org>]

Hi All,

I have been silently watching this list for a while, and I wanted to  
add to what Jim said.

Last year we were fortunate to have Larry and Kathryn here in Belize  
for a two week PDC, and watching Larry teach was great! Larry is a  
fantastic teacher, who really knows how to engage his students, and  
we really liked having him. He is a very good teacher, and Kathryn,  
who didn't teach at the course, was a wonderful guest for us to have.

As an organization that hosts courses, having Larry here was great.

Just my first .02.

Christopher


On Jan 13, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Jim wrote:

> Hi Krystle (and others)-
> Kathryn Santoyo was to modest to loudly blow the horn of herself  
> and Larry Santoyo,
> but I have heard a number of folks praise his courses highly.
>
> I'd like to thank Kathryn for being soft in her sell-- all too  
> often it seems like
> permaculture is very self-promoting, with not enough cross promotion.
>
> In that spirit, let me note that a local "competitor"
> of mine
> http://www.kleiwerks.com
> is offering a series of courses on permaculture, which you can take  
> as modules, or
> as a batch (nothing scheduled at my school right now).
> -- Jim
> Smith Mill Creek Permaculture School
> Asheville, NC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:02:54 -0800
> From: "L. Santoyo" <santoyo@earthflow.com>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Recommended permaculture design course?
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2008 3:24 PM, Krystle Chung <learning@selfmadefarmer.com>  
> wrote:
> In general, what should I be looking for in design course? What  
> makes some
> courses more valuable, useful, or applicable than others, if anything?
> *****************
>
> Hello Krystle, good questions....
>
> All Permaculture Design Certificate courses should cover the same  
> 72 hour
> curriculum as designated by the content of the Permaculture Designers
> Manual, and should include team design projects as part of the  
> coursework.
> Ask to see a copy of the course outline to confirm this.
>
> Of course, programs can include, in addition to that curriculum, other
> topics of interest- but you'll want to make sure that the curriculum
> includes the application of the principles of Permaculture to the  
> design of
> systems beyond those of home and garden... specifically, community and
> economics.
>
> The format in which a course is taught will flavor the learning  
> experience:
>
> The traditional 2 week residential course is an intensive dose of  
> living and
> learning with others. In this type of course, I cannot emphasize  
> enough the
> importance of the hosts and the host-site to the course experience.  
> Your
> ability to absorb the curriculum will be influenced by the  
> conditions of the
> site, and the warmth and hospitality of the hosts... Know what to  
> expect!
>
> The increasingly popular format of the weekend series course, held  
> over a
> period of months, tends to allow for a deeper experience of  
> learning in the
> team design projects. It also seems to better accommodate people with
> families, and working professionals, who are better able to  
> integrate this
> weekend format into their busy schedules. Because participants in the
> weekend classes usually all live near the class site, this type of  
> format
> also helps to create new, long-lasting connections within the  
> community as
> well.
>
> Once you've figured out what format you want your first design course
> experience to be (and yes, I hope you will end up taking more than  
> one- as
> only through comparison of different teachers and teaching styles  
> will you
> be better able to appreciate and absorb what each has to offer!), ask
> yourself, what in a teacher or teaching team is important to you...  
> gender,
> age, experience?
>
> As our friends and associates, we can also highly recommend Scott  
> and Arina
> Pittman, as well as the Bullock Brothers. In addition, I invite you  
> to check
> out our programs  http://earthflow.com  and see our other "Best
> Recommendations" on our website at: http://earthflow.com/ 
> volunteering.php
>
> Happy Hunting,
>
> Kathryn
>
> Kathryn Santoyo, Mistress of Administration
> EarthFlow Design Works
> earthflow.com
>
>
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_____________________________
Christopher Nesbitt

Maya Mountain Research Farm
San Pedro Columbia, Toledo
PO 153 Punta Gorda Town, Toledo
BELIZE,
Central America

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