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[Primal Parent <primalparent@hotmail.com>]

would anyone mind describing how a "thermostatically controlled electric
heater" is made? my concern is what use is it when there is no
electricity or when the day arrives when a solar panel is damaged and
can no longer be repaired.




> From: healinghawk@earthlink.net
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 00:15:10 -0500
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] small cooking woodstove
> 
> What did Mollison say about wood heat?  An ancestor said that when the white
> man cuts the last tree, he's going to find out that he can't eat his money.
> Trees are nothing but money on the stump, at best, in market society.
> Mollison realizes how hard it is to loose the anthropomorphic orientation of
> the "self-regulating" market.  
> 
> What Scott describes is a symbiotic relationship with the woodlot where he
> lives.  He takes out diseased and dying trees so the rest can live better,
> even if it's so he can keep on exploiting them.  Ecological damage is
> minimal.  Life's balance is maintained.  This is not what I'm saying don't
> do, even though I would not do this.  Mollison would, I think, bless this
> approach that Scott describes.  Scott doesn't describe The American Way.  
> 
> In Austin, we have people cutting heritage trees that were here before
> Austin so they can fit McMansions on the lots.  It's a two thousand dollar
> fine if they're caught.  Most aren't.  Fireplaces are a big sales item here.
> I'd guess more than half the apartments here have them.  Where are their
> woodlots?  Where are their coppicing skills?  We have such mild winters that
> passive solar doesn't pass the supreme test - it doesn't "pay off" soon
> enough, economically.  So a few weird architects build passive solar homes
> for themselves, and that's all of them there are.  "Green building" doesn't
> usually mean passive solar here.
> 
> There are few if any places in California that get as cold for as long as
> Maine, and there is green power available nearly everywhere in California.
> The original post was from California.  I observed plenty of roofs in the
> Bay Area (a Mediterranean climate) with a plume of wood smoke above them on
> temperate nights.  Where are their woodlots?  Where are their coppicing
> skills?  
> 
> As a general rule, don't cut trees or use products that cause them to be
> cut.  If you use wood products, follow Scot's example to do it sustainably.
> If you can't do it sustainably, don't do it.  Design lifestyles such that
> your presence here does not restrain Gaia from producing the profit with
> which she nurtures the future.  Trees are far more ecologically useful than
> you.  Hell, unless you're a highly unusual US citizen, pond scum is more
> ecologically useful than you because you don't know who you are or why
> you're here and it's not in the free market's interest to have you find out.
> Leave the trees for the future.  Find another way to get comfortable.
> That's why you were given the capacity to evolve.  Evolve, and leave a
> planetary life support system for those yet to come.  Trees are an essential
> component of that life support system.  You aren't.        
> 
> Tommy Tolson
> Austin, TX    
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