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  • From: "paul wheaton" <paul@richsoil.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] reduce pesticide use by the ton and oil-based fertilizer
  • Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:15:51 -0700

Excellent perspective!

The people that are searching for "lawn care" are not searching for
"organic lawn care" or "sustainable lawn care". They just wanna have
it be nice and figure there is something more to know. So if a
picture is painted for them that makes it easier and more purty - and
if a bit of toxic education comes along the way too ... well, yay
team!


On 8/24/07, J Kolenovsky <garden@hal-pc.org> wrote:
> Paul, I fired away with an impulse of "a sense of urgency" and no
> brains. No, not revolutionary but educationally. Revolutionaries get
> dragged away in the middle of night, never to be seen again. Or, a tree
> unexpectedly falls on them. Through the children, based on personal
> sweat equity and experience, this works! People are stupid, lazy, fat
> and ignorant. What Sean said in his email in Vol 55, Issue 27 was good.
>
> "... if your experience is that your food comes from the grocery store
> and your water comes from the tap, you?ll defend to the death the system
> that brings those to you because your life depends on it. If, on the
> other hand, your food comes from a landbase and your water comes from a
> river, then you?ll defend to the death that landbase and that river,
> because your life depends on them."
>
> C'mon igmo people. Get a grip. Your life (or your child's life) will
> become so radical that you will upchuck. Lokk back at your grandparents
> and great-grandparents. See how well they lived off the land and
> provided for themselves. See how they produced little or waste (personal
> and lifestyle-wise).
>
> When oil becomes scarce, it will interesting to see how oil-based
> fertilizer is produced and applied to fields of the world. I have a
> feeling that food production on a non-organic basis will be radically
> different.
>
> This was my response to Larry calling it revolutionary. Hi Larry.
>
> Yes, Larry, demonstration sites and areas of attraction on the natural
> side. People are like clones, homo see, homo do. My naturescape habitat
> is certified by State of Texas, National Wildlife Federation and listed
> in the American Garden Museum. It is a great demo site. I have built
> habitats for schools and working with NWF assisted them in teaching
> teachers the value of a habitat. I also gave about 24 native habitat
> presentations a year. Demonstration by attraction is the best way to go
> as well as hitting up the children. Double-barreled approach. We have an
> organization, www.urbanharvest.org that has over 150 school vegetable
> gardens.
>
> Massive widespread education will help convert and there will be fear
> mixed up in all this.
>
> So...thanks for your comment. It helped clarify my stand.
>
> For organic, natural, native data (as well as works) on habitats, see:
>
> www.hal-pc.org/~garden
> www.celestialhabitats.com
>
> J. Kolenovsky
> (former V-P, Native Plant Society of Texas)
> with fruit from Orange, Lime, Lemon, Papaya and Mango
> and lots of honeybees
>
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:43:57 -0700
> From: "paul wheaton" <paul@richsoil.com>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] easy way each of us can reduce pesticide
> use by the ton
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> I also think that the road to healing the earth is going to be
> evolutionary, not revolutionary.
>
> Back to lawns: Yes, it is painful to see somebody mowing an acre of
> grass every week. It would be great to see a forest garden there
> instead. But while they are lawn crazy - maybe they can at least be
> lawn crazy without the chemicals.
>
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