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  • From: Sean Maley <semaley@yahoo.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] reduce pesticide use by the ton and fertilizers
  • Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:19:04 -0700 (PDT)

Maybe some of this information would help explain why Organic.

http://www.epa.gov/radiation/neshaps/subpartr/more.htm
http://www.ecan.govt.nz/NR/rdonlyres/DF4F15C7-2368-4210-9E4A-B72BD9112773/0/84pg2326.pdf
http://www.fertiliser-society.org/Proceedings/UK/Prc400.HTM
http://jnuenvis.nic.in/subject/arsenic/poisoning.htm

Tell them to google "Itai-Itai". Also, once you understand the ecology
involved, it becomes pretty clear where all of those species going extinct
come from.


http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/derrick-jensen-on-saving-the-planet-%E2%80%9Cwe-need-the-industrial-economy-to-stop%E2%80%9D/

"... if your experience is that your food comes from the grocery store and
your water comes from the tap, you’ll defend to the death the system that
brings those to you because your life depends on it. If, on the other hand,
your food comes from a landbase and your water comes from a river, then
you’ll defend to the death that landbase and that river, because your life
depends on them."


-Sean.
paul wheaton <paul@richsoil.com> wrote: > Let's teach people the benefits of
having no or a tiny bit of lawn. If they
> don't want to, tell them about the impending (year tba) oil crash Armageddon
> and that they'll have to or live miserably, if not hungry as the rest of
> their friends will grow food on their lands.

I think this is a good thing. And while I have not written an article
expressing that, I have said as much in many forums.

I also think that the road to healing the earth is going to be
evolutionary, not revolutionary.

That's why I think the USDA organic program should be modified to be a
scale of 0 to 10. Organic 5 can be what is currently labeled organic.
Organic 8 could be something that is organic + permaculture.

This way, farms and farmers can ramp up to organic - instead of having
to, from their perspective, make a big leap. And consumers can also
ramp into knowledge about organic - right now, most american consumers
are certain that the "organic movement" is a pile of horse potatoes.
All marketing slight of hand and no true substance. At the same
time, many of them are willing to pay a bit more for "premium"
products.

Back to lawns: Yes, it is painful to see somebody mowing an acre of
grass every week. It would be great to see a forest garden there
instead. But while they are lawn crazy - maybe they can at least be
lawn crazy without the chemicals.
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