permaculture

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I think your point is well taken on the word wuss.  I was on verge of writing 
and saying that this thread seemed like it was moving far away from 
Permaculture, but then I thought maybe there is a relevency that is being 
missed.  Permaculturists can develop the greatest design concepts for 
sustainable living in the world, but should never forget that they are as 
capable as anybody of screwing up basic communication and creating barriers 
between themselves and other human beings.  Designing systems that foster 
human co-operation, is going to make designing food forests and sustainable 
buildings look very easy.


-----Original Message-----
From: Trudie Redding <tredding@mail.utexas.edu>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: [permaculture] anti-semitism or naivete



Hi Robert and Laurence, Even the word wuss has connotations, it stems
rom don't be a pussy, but I don't assume that you know that but as a
oman I do notice this "barb" and watch for other signs of anti women
anners in the speaker. It's only natural I think to be vigilant to
efend yourself when what you consider to be slurs are made. No offense
aken with your use of this word, only as someone commented it is really
ard to have a conversation if you have to worry about all of these
hings, but hey I have to worry whenever I have a conversation with a
hristian that I may offend them, it comes with the territory of being
uman and trying to communicate.
Trudie 
----Original Message-----
rom: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Robert
aldrop
ent: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:50 PM
o: permaculture
ubject: Re: [permaculture] anti-semitism or naivete
What wussing out on the issue?  You're the one who 
ants to take a "rational" approach to this, deny 
hat racism is operative in urban renewal schemes, 
nd blame "greed" based on your rational analysis. 
 don't think human beings are generally rational 
n their approach to anything, even when they are 
laiming to be rational.  As to making up lies, 
the guilty flee when no one pursues."
Bob Waldrop, OKC
---- Original Message ----- 
rom: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>
o: "permaculture" 
permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
ent: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:31 PM
ubject: Re: [permaculture] anti-semitism or 
aivete

 Robert Waldrop wrote:

> And then there are bigots who hide behind
> pseudo-rationalism as part of their internal
> process of denying the human person of people 
> they
> find inconvenient.

 Typical wussing out of addressing the issue. Put 
 the blame on someone else.
 And make up lies about them for good measure.

 -- 
 Lawrence F. London, Jr.
 Venaura Farm
 lfl@intrex.net
 http://market-farming.com
 http://market-farming.com/venaurafarm
 http://venaurafarm.blogspot.com/
 http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech

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