permaculture

[John Fritz <johnfritz77@yahoo.com>]

  If someone on this list has the information that could be used in an 
"update", I would consider your suggestion.  As it stands now, the reason I 
am gathering support for an 
  "update" is because I don't have the information to write an "update". If I 
did, there would be no reason to request such.  That is the gist of the 
problem: I have seen several articles that give an overview of the work being 
done by various groups, (such as the one in France) but none of them are 
giving the down and dirty nitty gritty as to how to assemble and operate such 
systems. The petition specifcally "requests" such an update.  I don't see 
where it could be construed that it (the petition) is trying to force anyone 
into any action. The MEN
  asks, in each issue, for story ideas, and that is what I would like to do.  
I have had good response from the original post, and submitting singatures 
from a petition would give MEN reason to believe that the story would sell 
magazines.
   
  John Fritz, NW Arkansas
   
   
  Message: 9
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:17:19 -0800
From: Loren Davidson <listmail@lorendavidson.com>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] draft of Mother Earth News petition
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
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>At 7:22 PM -0800 12/23/06, John Fritz wrote:
>The following is my first draft of a petition to The Mother Earth 
>News (MEN) for and update to their March/April 1980 story about the 
>methods of Jean Pain, in his use of forest thicket compost.

I have a better idea.

Rather than presenting them with a heavily legalese-oriented document 
full of "whereas" and such, *write* the update to that article and 
submit it to them, along with a cover letter saying "I've heard from 
X number of people who say they'll buy the issue this comes out in if 
you publish this."

This will work better for the following reasons:

1) They need good content, and if you provide it for them, you get 
brownie points.

2) They need to sell magazines in order to stay in business; some 
assurances that this article will help sell magazines will give you 
brownie points.

3) Nobody likes being confronted with legalese in an attempt to force 
them to write on a particular topic.

4) If you write the article, you get the article you want by someone 
who knows the subject matter, rather than getting a 
hastily-researched hack by someone who may have no love for or 
expertise in the subject.

Trying the petition thing is, IMO, like shouting at your corn to grow 
bigger with more ears. It pays no attention at all to what the corn 
wants and needs in order to do that.

Just a thought,

Loren


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