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permaculture-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote:
> From: negiliblek <negiliblek@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Permaculture Database
>
> Lawrence,
>
> I like the idea of creating a  development  mail list: pcdb@lists.ibiblio.org.
>
> or:
>
> (http://www.gaianlife.co.uk/phpbb/index.php?sid=b1cb7a79ba3c8221f68cc4c7fa59
> 2631)
>  That Helen has offered for our use.
>
> If the following people listed are willing to be subscribed to this new list, 
> I'd like to see their input in the dev process:
>
> Paul Cereghino
> Jedd
> Larry Saltzman
> Richard Archer
> Bob Randall
>
> ...and anyone else whose wants to be directly involved in the design and 
> development process.

Me too. If we go the wiki root especially MediaWiki i'd be interested in 
developer access, I've a fair bit of experience with the software and 
the social structures. I'd also like to back up Grahams point that if we 
get a wiki going, we will want to migrate most discussion onto the wiki. 
The soon we get experience with using a wiki the better.

Things we need to sort out early, is the licence for the code and the 
data. If we extend open source tools then we'll need to use the 
appropriate licences for those probably GPL. I feel the content should 
also be open source, either the Gnu Free Documentation Licence or 
Creative Commons By/Share alike. (but not including the non-commercial 
clause)

> Jedd has a good point: we may need ownership (read leadership)
> defined
for each portion of the overall project ( i.e. ownership for the
database, ownership for the CMS, ownership for wiki).

Ideally I'd like to see at least three users with the greatest level of 
access. This eleviates problems with putting too much power in anyones 
hands. We also need to keep the code on a CVS/subversion system, from 
pretty early on in the project. If we go the full open source root it 
should not be a problem to get a sourceforge project, theres a few other 
people who do open source CVS hosting. Hopefully we can either use the 
sourceforge issue tracker or the one John developed for the pcpdb project.

> I've assumed that Lawrence was the overall owner (leader) of the
project. Since, at first, no one responded to Lawrence's original
question, I figured I'd take ownership of creating the database.
> But now, with all the interest, I'm perfectly willing to step back
> and
do grunt and gopher work on the database.
> Are there any volunteers that want to be owners (people who make
> final
decisions when a design and/or implementation decision has to be made
when there exists two equally viable solution presented by the
developing group; people who coordinate contributors' input and do work
on the project) of the database? ... of the CMS? ... of the wiki?
> Lawrence, what kinda of structure do you want? >
> negiliblek

        Rich
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