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["E. E. Mitchamore Jr" <emitch@att.net>]

Also (didn't think of it earlier), and probably faster-growing, are various 
Acacias, Huisache, Retama & Kidneywood (definitely faster) and Mesquites of 
South Texas.  Most of these can grow quite happily as an impenetrable thicket 
(no need for fences).  They're all good for honey and some of the seeds can 
be used as food for animals or humans.

I don't think you'll find commercial suppliers of these seeds, as most folks 
around here think we already have too many of these trees.

E. E. "Mitch" Mitchamore
www.hillcountrynatives.biz
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sinergyinaction@netscape.net 
  To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:32 AM
  Subject: [permaculture] Trees densities


  Hi,
  I am trying to determine tree densities for planting pioneer legume trees 
in droughty country and clay soil.
  I am not 100% sure about how close to each other can the trees be planted. 
I'd like to have 
  as thick a canopy as possible, and start thinning the stand form the 
2nd/3rd or fourth year.

  The main constraint there is drought and summer very high temperatures 
(40ºC +). 
  Although I am selecting drought-tolerant trees I am still
  unsure how far can I push closeness without creating too much competition 
for water and nutrients.

  The idea here is to increase biomass and shade etc. as much as possible in 
as a short time as possible.
  We have some water sources available on site and we'll be able to store 
raiwater in the near future 
   
  I understand that I will just have to improvise anyhow but if anyone has 
some clues from past experience that'd be great to hear.
   
  Also, do you have any advise on publications or people that advice on what 
I want to do?
  Thanks in advance
  Antonio
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