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  • From: Graham <grahamburnett@blueyonder.co.uk>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>, "Permaculture Magazine, Maddy Harland" <maddy@permaculture.co.uk>, PermaLearners <permalearnersuk@yahoogroups.com>, Permaculture UK list <permaculture_uk@yahoogroups.co.uk>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] "Free" Permacuture
  • Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 17:03:18 +0100



Arina Pittman wrote:

Thanks for your reply Graham - please forward to the UK folks. I vaguely
remember hearing about it at my class, back in 1995 (?) with Bill Mollison
and Scott Pittman. But, then - my command of English was somewhat weak at
that time - so I am not sure if I heard it right.
I assumed it was part of pc ethics, that teacher waives his/her fee.... the
rest of cost must be still paid for (food, lodging, advertisement, handouts,
etc). The idea sounds consistent with the ethics - if the class is full, why
not allow someone to sit on, pay for ALL other expenses and refresh the
memory. The third ethic - share of surplus.
The main question is: is this rule upheld by the pc community at large or on
a voluntary basis? Is it or is it not part of the conduct in pc world?


Some teachers/organisers may well offer 'free' places to PDC graduates on their courses, indeed I've offered places myself to folks who are working towards their permaculture diplomas so that they can 'sit in' on Design & Introductory courses, particulrly those who have been thinking about running courses themselves and want to get a 'feel' for how to do it. Interestingly, those who have taken up the offer have insisted on making a contribution, even though I've said they weren't expected to. They've helped out with cooking and other logistics, as well as making a financial contribution. In one case I've been promised some bottles of wine as soon as they produce some!

But that is down to my discretion and the fact that I felt able to offer this. This is completely different from telling my students that it is their 'right' to attend future PC courses 'free of charge' if they feel so inclined. There has never been any agreement that this is the case that I have heard of.

Cheers Graham




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