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[Keith Johnson <keithdj@mindspring.com>]

 I felt the rest of the Pc list might be curious to learn about this 
ongoing conversation (on Pcinfo listserv) to initiate a Permaculture Web 
Hosting Cooperative. Please speak up if you think you would like to see 
this happen or to participate. I'm especially curious to know if Pc 
Credit Union is interested in helping make this a reality.
K
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [permacultureinfo] PROPOSAL: Permaculture Hosting COOP
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:09:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Sean Maley <semaley@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Permaculture Information <permacultureinfo@lists.ibiblio.org>
To: permacultureinfo@lists.ibiblio.org


primary domains tempted to commit:
 www.permaculturemarketplace.com
 www.smalleconomies.com
 www.green-phoenix.org
 www.hudsonvalleyecovillage.com
 www.ecologicalgardens.com
 www.permacultureactivist.net

At $160 for our own connection, that would mean
splitting to $26.67 each for equality.  This isn't
enough to start the hosting solution from the feed
back I have received.  However, this doesn't mean we
can't do something.  Another solution is to use a
hosting provider that isn't green and we don't hold
the physical host in our possession.

Such as:
http://www.layeredtech.com

The $65/mo solution can be split to $10.83/mo and
still give us the features we want until we can start
our own datacenter solution when more sites come
online with us.  The better part of this is that we
get a whole lot more bandwidth at a lower cost and we
still control the software we make available to each
other.  It isn't much different than having the
computer in your livingroom, but there is the added
advantage that hardware failures are more readily
fixed by someone doing such things everyday.

Most of our interested members have more than one
domain, so I am considering each individual, family,
or organizational construct as one share, although
there may be a handful of sites associated.  If one of
these added domains turns out to be a major domain
(generates significant traffic relative to others), we
can ask the member to split their share(s).  The cost
to each party being the equal share to keep our sites
up.

So...  if there are no other takers, please let me
know if ~$10/mo is too much.  If we can have four more
shares, then we are looking at ~$6.50 each. 
Additionally, we should consider advertising funds as
a possible source of funding to mitigate any costs. 
We can tie an affiliate program to our cooperative
bank account, then divide equally to the lowest
contributing site from the affiliate program; and
rebate the remaining to the site(s) generating more
revenue and any amount past our needs for keeping the
cooperative in place.

To get started, I am considering opening an account
for this purpose at pcuonline.  The initial deposit
will need to be whatever installation and setup fees
we face, plus two to six months of monthly payments
(we can throttle the balance depending upon everyone's
payment history).

Does anyone have any comments?  What are the secondary
domains that others may commit?


-Sean.
--

Keith Johnson
Permaculture Activist Magazine
PO Box 1209
Black Mountain, NC 28711
(828)669-6336

also Patterns for Abundance Design & Consulting
Culture's Edge at Earthaven Ecovillage
http://www.permacultureactivist.net
http://www.earthaven.org
http://www.bioregionalcongress.org

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