permaculture

["Graham Burnett" <grahamburnett@blueyonder.co.uk>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Permaculture Association (Britain)" <office@permaculture.org.uk>
To: <rael@ripco.com>; "Graham Burnett" <grahamburnett@blueyonder.co.uk>
Cc: "Permaculture UK List" <permaculture.uk@ntlworld.com>; "Richard Morris"
<webmaster@pfaf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: [PermacultureUK] - colaborative contact list


> Hi Graham,
>
> very quick update on website in response to your email (can you distribute
> to people you think will be interested):
>
> international database now has 415 international contacts, with about 130
to
> add when we have time.
>
> around 115 UK projects, with another 30-40 to add again when we have time
>
> {TIP - put in 'permaculture' as a search term}
>
> We aim to put the 50 or so lesson plans from teachers Guide online and
> avaialble as pdfs and create protocol for adding new lesson plans, again
as
> soon as time, finances and personpower allows.
>
> It is currently a very simple but clever designed access database (cos
> that's what we had), but we have plans and intentions for going open
source
> as soon as poss.
>
> We have £3000 to spend on next phase of project, which will include
> consultation on 19 november at the Leeds office (contact me if you want to
> come along), putting our existing thoughts together into a prioritised
list
> and taking account of views from consultation, making the changes to
> database (adding designers register online, putting international contacts
> on a search by continent basis, improved usability for blind people, etc,
> improving functionality so that more people can log on and add information
> themselves - already have around 20 people doing this - without
comprimising
> security of site etc. and then we will spend £500 on training as many
people
> as possible to use and add their own info about courses, events, projects
> etc etc etc..... so hopefully we can move to having 90 or more people
adding
> stuff on a fairly regular basis.
>
> Will add online sales so people can join and donate online, and work
towards
> a permaculture 'marketplace' that can be used for small permaculture
> producers to sell their stuff without having to set up their own online
> sales website (with a very small commission on each sale) so that we can
> make the website administration self-financing, and use other money to
keep
> it developing.
>
> Also wanting to move towards a system in which we can share the database
> with other permaculture websites so that, for example, a kenyan can add a
> course listing, or a request for a teacher, to our database and it will be
> available from 30-40 sites, or a small croatian permaculture group can
have
> a website with their own information, and also offer worldwide contacts
and
> courses info - in much the same way as www.takingITglobal.org do (they are
> an international youth org that now shares a web database with 5 or 6
other
> global youth organisations, thus extending information and communication
> between organisations, and cutting down on the number of people that have
to
> sit in front of a computer screen getting zapped by the rays rather than
> being outside having fun with their kids...
>
> hopefully this thinking reflects the principles of 'minimum effort for
> maximum effect', 'each important function is supported by many elements',
> 'cooperation rather that competition', and so forth.
>
> As long as i am coordinator of the PA(B) I will make every effort to make
> the website as good as it can be, and we have commitment from the trustees
> that the website is our key communication and information 'tool' - we have
> up to 1800 people visit each week, so it is by far our most used service.
>
> Anyway, I said I'd just do a quick one so will end here. If anyone is
> interested to know more, wants to coordinate plans or help in any way,
> contact me at details below.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Andy Goldring
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> Permaculture Association (Britain) Charity 290897
> Postal address: BCM Permaculture Association, London, WC1N 3XX
> Tel / Fax: +44 (0)845 4581805
> Email: office@permaculture.org.uk
> Web: www.permaculture.org.uk for joining forms, course and group listings,
> international contacts, and more...
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graham Burnett [mailto:grahamburnett@blueyonder.co.uk]
> Sent: 22 October 2003 10:10
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org; Richard Morris; PermacultureUK;
> Permaculture Association (Britain)
> Subject: Re: [PermacultureUK] - colaborative contact list
>
>
> Hi Rich and everyone else- I think the UK PC association are making
serious
> attempts to get an interactive database of links together, so it would
seem
> silly to duplicate what they are doing, maybe you could help them to get
> theirs up and running- the problem they have is is simply finding the time
> to spend on development AFAIK- have also forwarded this to Andy Goldring
at
> the office so he can tell us what the current state of play is with the
> association website.
>
> Also there is the Permaculture wiki at
> http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/pcwiki/index.php/HomePage which is a
> fully interactive project where anybody can add or edit whatever
information
> they want at any time. It's very underutilised at the moment, but I think
a
> project with huge potential.
>
> HTH Graham www.spiralseed.co.uk
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Morris" <webmaster@pfaf.org>
> To: <grahamburnett@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:39 AM
> Subject: [PermacultureUK] - colaborative contact list
>
>
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> > Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:
> >
> >  >>
> >  >> From: Rael Bassan <rael@ripco.com>
> >  >> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> >  >>
> >  >> Is there any data base or compendium of permaculture activities
> > around the
> >  >> world? I'm planning on reporting on same for a meeting this week and
> >  >> relevant material seems scattered around.
> >
> >
> > Indeed, its long been a problem with no central repository
> > for contacts. Theres lots of sites with good local contacts
> > but it can be quite a task to search them all.
> >
> > I've been thinking about making my own link page database
> > driven so its easier to add link, and possibly also
> > provide an xml/rss feed so that the information can be easily shared.
> > I know the permaculture association in the UK have
> > some sort of contacts database, but I don't know
> > what it's current state is.
> >
> > Anyone on the list interested in some sort of colaborative
> > contacts list?
> >
> > Rich
> >
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