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- From: "Kelly Finigan" <kfinigan@telus.net>
- To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture
- Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:55:03 -0700
A few thoughts/ comments / sharing
experience:
sludge:
we don't have to be phobic of this. IT depends
what's in it. Municipal sewage sludge from big cities is almost always the worst
- a real potpourri of heavy metal etc mixed with human waste. In small towns,
however, there is often no source of heavy metals (i.e. no industry putting it
in the waste stream) - this sludge could be quite easily used. Analogously, some
sludge comes ONLY from industrial producers. This is ripe for reclaiming the
"contaminants"...for instance photographic/film waste streams are rich in
silver. I believe Kodak phytoremediates its waste stream, harvests the plants,
burns them, sifts out the silver and uses it.
Pathogens:
various ways to deal with this: chlorine - fast,
easy to control, energy-consuming, expensive and toxic; UV bulbs - fast, easy to
control, expensive and energy-consuming; ozone - fast, expensive, potentially
explosive and energy-consuming; UV sunlight - slow, generally requires some land
use, cheap, safe, easy, energy-conserving. Standard wastewater treatment
practice in rural areas here is UV (sunlight) disinfection while water is
stored in lagoons or when its in a farmers field after been used for
irrigation. No problem with this.
Biogas:
this is very close to being a large scale reality.
One project I have been trying to establish should reduce about 50,000 tonnes of
greenhouse gases per year while producing 1MW of electricity (and water heat for
an industrial process). On a per-dollar-investment basis, this is about 12 times
the reduction of GHGs that wind power makes. Currently, the economics are
slightly against biogas - ironically, wind power receives government price
premiums here, while biogas does not. If this changes, or if Canada ratifies the
Kyoto accord, the economics should become favourable.
ciao,
Kelly
Kelly Finigan, M.Sc. P.Eng., Permaculture Designer
Essential Elements Inc. 744 - 4 Street NW Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2N 1P2 1-403-283-7270 fax 283-9783 kfinigan@telus.net
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Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture
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- Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture, living-change, 10/01/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture,
living-change, 10/01/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture,
Kirby Fry, 10/03/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture - H20 treatment,
John Schinnerer, 10/04/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture - H20 treatment, living-change, 10/06/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture - H20 treatment,
John Schinnerer, 10/04/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture,
Kirby Fry, 10/03/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture,
John Irwin, 10/02/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture - water, John Schinnerer, 10/04/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture,
Keith Johnson, 10/03/2002
- [permaculture] Virus warning, keller, 10/03/2002
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Fwd: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture,
Marimike6, 10/29/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture, Kelly Finigan, 10/29/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture, Kirby Fry, 10/30/2002
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