permaculture

["living-change" <living-change@ntlworld.com>]

Thanks Kirby (and others who have been/are in contact),

great ideas! Let me try and translate them into permaculture principles,
please comment:

Every element should have several functions, i.e. production plant and rain
water collection, spin off effect --> new business

Efficiency--> above leads to better exploitation of the of same area!
(stacking???)

Animal manure (human animals?) and other waste for energy production...
there is no waste... use within the system... (The workers would provide
some of the energy needed for the production process. Again every element
provides several functions: work and energy input.)

Waste water purification -- providing a service for the community, no waste
within the system... (not totally if we need to landfill heavy metals... can
we use them somehow? Create a business that changes them into unavailable
forms? through storage in plant/soil in low concentrations? was discussed
recently on this list. )

Landscaping around industry park could at least take care of pollution (air
and other) created within the system, maybe also provide fresh food for
cantines? (Quite an incentive not pollute the area too much!)

Social implications... how do they go along with the governing economic
system? Is it possible? Do you have examples?


Other principles which might need to be addressed: every function should be
provided by several elements... what would this mean? Ideas?

Working with guilts, put modules together and interlink... would  this mean
to design a small unit of a number of businesses first and then bring
different units together? Are there examples for this?

Thank you this is very useful!

Rita

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirby Fry" <peace@totalaccess.net>
To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Industry and permaculture


> Hi Rita,
>
> How about collecting all of the rain water off of the roofs of the massive
> warehouses and assembly plants used by industry.  Leases could be sold to
> entrepreneurs who would collect, treat and bottle the water on site.
Maybe
> We can get California to put it into legislation.
>
> Richard Heiniken, here in Texas is one of the first in the state to bottle
> and sell rain water.
>
> Also, as has been mentioned, using animal manure in commercial methane gas
> digesters and steam powered generators.  Same goes for land fills.
>
> One of the most interesting landscapes I see from the US Highway 290 is
the
> grounds surrounding an industrial park.  They've already done massive
> berming and ponding.  With just a little more coaxing they could possibly
> install a perennial food system and / or some sort of waste water
> purification system such as in Beaumont, TX and Arcada, CA.
>
> Toxic sludges could be processed in specially designed wetlands where
> cattails other water plants would polish soils and waters before they were
> moved on.  The plants often have to be harvested and incinerated and the
ash
> disposed of as hazardous material.  I believe the Tenessee Vally Authority
> was using wetlands to process mining tailings.
>
> Pc principles also apply for working conditions, distribution of wealth
> among the employees and the surrounding communities, and overall social
> accountability.
>
> Plenty more to discuss...
>
> Kirby Fry
>
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