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  • From: Michael Dean <mikedean.com@altavista.com>
  • To: permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu
  • Subject: Re: Listmember's Ecologies
  • Date: 14 Dec 2001 03:25:39 -0800


Lee,

Could not agree with you more!

Mike.



On Thu, 13 December 2001, "Lee Flier" wrote:

>
> All right, THAT DOES IT!!!
>
> I've been mostly lurking around here lately, and haven't had too much time
> to read the discussions fully although what I've read has been
> interesting... but all this politically correct crap is just too much, and
> in fact it is one reason why I've been increasingly disgusted with the
> permaculture crowd and environmentalists in general, even though I am one -
> nobody is allowed to have a freaking sense of humor anymore! You can't say
> anything even in jest without somebody getting their panties all in a wad.
> I'm a very sensitive person, and I hate stereotypes more than almost
> anything, but humor like this doesn't do anything to "perpetuate"
> stereotypes. If anything, poking fun at a stereotype can help to break it
> down. How can people ever become close if they can't laugh together,
> including about sensitive issues? Sorry, I thought the Afghan TV Guide was
> hysterical, and Gene's post was funny too, and I did not take them to be
> reflections of what the posters actually think of Afghans or women.
>
> And even if I didn't think the posts were funny I'd just hit the delete key
> and leave it at that, rather than tell others what is appropriate to think
> and say. Will the Thought Police please give it a rest?
>
> Oh, and by the way, I'm a woman, so I get the last word. :-)
>
> --Lee
>
> > Gene, although you signed off as "having fun," I
> > I do not see genderism as a good reason for the
> > purported humour above. With these comments you
> > perpetuate institutionalized gender roles of
> > heterosexual monogamy that people have been
> > working to eliminate for decades and longer.
> >
> > An analogy can be made between this joke and the
> > Afghan joke--forums better than a pc-list can be
> > found for these examples of cultural ignorance.
> >
> > Sean
>
>
>
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