Percy-L: Literary, Religious, Scientific, and Philosophical Discussion of Walker Percy

[Jim Wesson <gypsyjimmy1 AT yahoo.com>]

yes, and keep on searching.
 i think Camus found it.
  i haven't had a drink in a long time along with
about 3 million others and we seem to get by quite
nicely with a very simple spititual program. 
 spirituality is all around us.
  and here in williamsburg,va. churches are springing
up all over the place.the catholic church,st.bedes,
just started building a new church to handle their
overflow of over 8,000. so it looks like lots and lots
are going to church.
nice chatting,
peace,
   jim





> and as a result we have
> existential loneliness and alienation of our times. 
> That's the problem with
> the century -- but also the gift of the century.  If
> society doesn't give a
> spirituality to you, then you have to search for the
> truth that really is
> there.
> 
> KP
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Wesson
> To: percy-l AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts,
> Largely Unrelated, Based on
> Previous Discussions and Readings
> 
> 
> well, it has more to do with the way you put down
> others like your'good ole southern baptist
> students,and people who belive in JC(no less. and
> people who believe in  fairy tales. it is just a
> rather mean spitited attack on people really doing
> you
> no harm just because they think differently than
> you.
> has nothing to di with literary theory,marx,atheists
> or stuff like that.
>   i think Percy thought it was ok to respect others
> thoughts.he even might have been
>  'the last gentleman'
> peace,
>   jim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- "Karey L. Perkins" <karey AT charter.net> wrote:
> > Well, if you do figure it out, let me know!   I
> had
> > a literary theory
> > professor once -- young, largely liberal leftist,
> > Marxist, atheist (as is
> > often found in the academy these days) -- who
> > refused to debate Percy with
> > me, saying, "I would be hostile to your point of
> > view" (since he knew
> > Percy's stance before we even began).  I was
> sorely
> > disappointed, as I
> > thought his thoughts would inform mine --
> especially
> > since we began from
> > different premises.  Either I would discover flaws
> > in my arguments, or new
> > points to consider, or change it slightly or
> > entirely, or, in the end, find
> > it confirmed and strengthened -- or all of the
> above
> > in some way.  Anyway,
> > perhaps the important consideration here is:  what
> > did Percy think about it?
> > Didn't he think that the 20th century culture (on
> > the whole) lacked
> > spirituality?  Wasn't that one of his primary
> > messages?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jim Wesson
> > To: percy-l AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 2:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts,
> > Largely Unrelated, Based on
> > Previous Discussions and Readings
> >
> >
> >
> > > defines us.  There are many
> > > sub-cultures that do so -- I live in Atlanta,
> and
> > a
> > > whole lot of my students
> > > are good ole South Georgia Baptists, firmly
> > viewing
> > > themselves with a
> > > meaning, and defining themselves and their place
> > and
> > > purpose in the world as
> > > spiritual creatures -- saved by Jesus Christ no
> > less
> > > -- but this is a
> > > sub-culture and they have just traveled only
> > 50-100
> > > miles from their
> > > hometown to sit side by side in a classroom (and
> > at
> > > work I suppose as well)
> > > with others -- the majority I'd say -- who think
> > > they're living a fairy
> > > tale.
> > >
> > >hi,
> >
> >  well, i am not religious but you may have this
> all
> > wrong and i can not even explain what i mean!
> >    peace,
> >    jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Oops -- same message, but Plain Text format
> this
> > > time.  I keep forgetting.
> > > >
> > > > KP
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Karey L. Perkins
> > > > To: percy-l AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:05 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random
> Thoughts,
> > > Largely Unrelated, Based
> > > on
> > > > Previous Discussions and Readings
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Aristotle thought the teenagers of his day
> were
> > > all going to pot.  An
> > > essay
> > > > in Percy's Signposts says more (American) men
> > were
> > > killed in the Civil War
> > > > than WWI and WWII put together. On a physical
> > > level, the 20th century
> > > wasn't
> > > > any worse than other centuries... On a
> material
> > > level, our lives are
> > > > terrific (Percy would agree) and far better
> than
> > > they have been ever (at
> > > > least the Northern Hemisphere).   The 9/11
> > tragedy
> > > and the wars that are
> > > > following it are tragedies of course -- but no
> > > worse than those that came
> > > > before and actually far less I would say.
> > > >
> > > > However, on a spiritual level, we don't know
> why
> > > we're here, or who we
> > > > are -- THIS is what's different about our
> > century.
> > > >
> > > > On an ETHICAL level, however, I'd have to say
> > this
> > > century is no better or
> > > > worse than any others...  We can still learn
> to
> > be
> > > "ethical" in this
> > > > transient, anonymous, capitalist, postmodern
> > > society -- ethical implies a
> > > > statement about our behavior in the physical
> > > world, and the laws of nature
> > > > still apply.  I.E.:  If you're lazy and don't
> > > work, you won't produce and
> > > > hence you will be fired, become hungry, and
> > become
> > > motivated to work.  If
> > > > you're a freeloader, people will know it,
> resent
> 
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