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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings
- From: "Karey L. Perkins" <karey AT charter.net>
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- Subject: Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings
- Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:05:06 -0500
Aristotle thought the teenagers of his day were all
going to pot. An essay in Percy's Signposts says more (American) men were
killed in the Civil War than WWI and WWII put together. On a physical
level, the 20th century wasn't any worse
than other centuries... On a material level, our lives are
terrific (Percy would agree) and far better than they have been ever (at least
the Northern Hemisphere). The 9/11 tragedy and the wars that are
following it are tragedies of course -- but no worse than those that came before
and actually far less I would say.
However, on a spiritual level, we don't know why
we're here, or who we are -- THIS is what's different about our
century.
On an ETHICAL level, however, I'd have to say this
century is no better or worse than any others... We can still learn to be
"ethical" in this transient, anonymous, capitalist, postmodern society --
ethical implies a statement about our behavior in the physical world, and the
laws of nature still apply. I.E.: If you're lazy and don't work, you
won't produce and hence you will be fired, become hungry, and become motivated
to work. If you're a freeloader, people will know it, resent you, abandon
you, and you'll soon lose people to freeload off of. If you cheat and
lie, you will (eventually) be found out. Enron and WorldCom. Being
unethical just doesn't work -- in the long run -- and the structure of the
universe will ensure that we learn our lessons and act ethically to succeed, or
not learn our lessons and fail. "What doesn't work will eventually
fail." There are exceptions, of course, but generally our world -- THE
world -- works that way.
However, ethics is different from spirituality
-- though the two are related more often than not. Spirituality implies a
sense of meaning and purpose behind our actions. Spirituality implies
something that is transcendent of the physical world. Spirituality
implies, esp. for Percy, something human -- different from the animals --
and entails such concepts and experiences of "joy" and "alienation"
and a "soul" and a "dark night" and "pattern" and
"purpose."
In other words, I can act ethically for the
physical rewards/benefits of that and have no spiritual purpose behind it at all
(though spirituality usually entails ethical actions). You referred to the
"Thanatos Syndrome" -- in it you have the characters cavorting about engaging in
all sorts of meaningless sexual acts -- it's not that that's unethical
that is the problem with this -- but that it shows the absence of
spirituality -- there's no meaning or purpose behind what should be a
spiritual act. In TS, the water is tampered with to make a happy society
on a physical plane, but there's no purpose to the happiness, no transcendent
meaning related to that. (In this way, to me, Thanatos
Syndrome is very closely related to Huxley's Brave New World -- in
events and in theme.)
Huston Smith (best known for his "World Religions"
work) has a great little book, a pretty quick read, called "Beyond the
Post-Modern Mind" (1989? though that might not be the first edition). In
it he says the middle ages was an era in which man saw himself as a
creature of God, as a creature with a soul, and his place in the world was
determined by the state of his soul and relationship with God. So the
middle ages was "Man with a soul," which became usurped in the Renaissance by
mind, science, and intellect -- man was "Man with a mind," and in the
20th century, we no longer view our place in the world as defined by soul or
mind, but by body. We are physical creatures, and that is the end of
that.
So, what's wrong with making society productive on
a physical plane (certainly what the Nazis wanted -- Hitler was a Utopian) and
people happy through physical inducement? It lacks any connection to
meaning, purpose, and man's place in the world as it relates to anything
transcendent. It (the postmodern age) lacks a
spirituality.
Karey
----- Original Message -----
From: Earthrise Press
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated,
Based on Previous Discussions and Readings "Wade Riddick" wrote:
> Well, the list appears to have gone dark, which isn't surprising what with > the increasing corporate ownership of media and all. I've been occasionally lurking around for some months out of interest in Percy's work, surfing the website too. How about attempting a "revival" with one of my favorite quotations from Percy: Sign Posts in a Strange Land, 309: "The old modern age has ended. We live in a post-modern as well as a post-Christian age which as yet has no name.... "It is post-modern because the Age of Enlightenment with its vision of man as a rational creature, naturally good and part of the cosmos, which itself is understandable by natural science--this age has also ended. It ended with the catastrophes of the twentieth century." What are we to make of the catastrophes of the 21st Century? Not off to an especially good start, are we?! Or too gloomy a quotation to prompt comment? Frederick Glaysher Earthrise Press P. O. Box 81842 Rochester, MI 48308-1842 Voice: 248-651-3380 FAX: 248-608-6424 EarthrisePress AT Comcast.Net www.fglaysher.com |
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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings,
Earthrise Press, 12/03/2002
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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings,
Ken Armstrong, 12/03/2002
- Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings, Earthrise Press, 12/03/2002
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Karey L. Perkins, 12/03/2002
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Earthrise Press, 12/03/2002
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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings,
Karey L. Perkins, 12/03/2002
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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings,
Karey L. Perkins, 12/03/2002
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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings,
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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings,
Karey L. Perkins, 12/03/2002
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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings,
Jim Wesson, 12/03/2002
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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings,
Jim Wesson, 12/03/2002
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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings,
Karey L. Perkins, 12/03/2002
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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings,
Karey L. Perkins, 12/03/2002
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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings,
Karey L. Perkins, 12/03/2002
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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings,
Earthrise Press, 12/03/2002
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Re: [percy-l] Re: Some Random Thoughts, Largely Unrelated, Based on Previous Discussions and Readings,
Ken Armstrong, 12/03/2002
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