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Re: [pcplantdb] Formal Spec

From: Sean Maley <semaley@yahoo.com>
To: Permaculture Plant Database <pcplantdb@lists.ibiblio.org>, permacultureinfo@lists.ibiblio.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: [pcplantdb] Formal Spec
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:26:50 -0800 (PST)

Ex:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd";>

if the file changes, the standard is changed, but that
would work out so well for the browser that was
programmed to follow the old file standard. In the
end, it depends, as usual. What to do with the
<PLANT> tag is different than enforcing that it should
contain a <SPECIES> tag. In the end, neither matters
until the whole system catches up to the change.

I'm not well versed on XML, just familiar with the
concept. All of the new standards turn out to be the
same old pattern in new clothes, so I'm not sure what
to expect with XML Schemas. Schema to me is the DDL
package for the database. Sorry for any confusion.

In Linux, make files can become tedious and
unpredictable. The commands strace and libtool are
the tools to pin down which wrong library was getting
used, or whatever the endless problems turn out to be
days later. You may consider trying yum. Unlike
rpmtool and using make files, yum does a little
research and installs the missing components before
leaving you confused for days because you didn't know
gcc version blah sucked or that libc++ was needed
first. On linux, you will likely use the bash shell,
but tcsh works like csh if you wanted it. Upgrade the
Win95 PC to Linux. Unless you still need some program
for printing out sticker labels, you will likely have
a more peaceful life getting rid of the bloatware (95
is still floating on DOS underneath).

These looked interesting:
http://www.gregorpurdy.com/gregor/psh/
ftp://ftp.blarg.net/users/amol/zsh/
http://jlb.twu.net/code/unixkit.php
http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/uwin/
http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/

I used Hamilton years ago, but then I didn't pay for
it either.

-Sean.

--- "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net> wrote:

> Sean Maley wrote:
>
> > DTD (Document Type Definitions):
> > In an XML document (or even HTML), a compendium
> of
> > tag specifications must be specified that defined
> the
> > tags being used. For an HTML document, tags like
> > <TABLE>, <P>, and <HTML> should have rules and
> > components defined within a document specified at
> the
> > top of the HTML document. Similarly, our DTD
> document
> > for plant information exchange may have tags like
> > <PLANT>, <SPECIES>, and <USE>.
>
> Interesting! So new tags like <PLANT> can be created
> on the fly
> and associated with our _XML_ DTD. I assume this
> could not occur in
> an HTML DTD since there's no HTML 4 tag for it. Is
> this correct?
>
>
> > Schema:
> > The organization of data within a database
> starting
> > with entities (the tables), the elements (columns)
> > contained in them, and the relationships (which
> > column(s) in one table match column(s) within
> > another).
> >
> > Use cases may be useful to organize the DTD. The
> > database design must first have these usage
> patterns
> > defined, so will await the DTD spec.
> >
> > Who will use the system and what are they doing to
> > interact with it? Will they want any specific
> > analysis? What information will be entered. We
> have
> > a good chunk being discussed in another thread.
>
> Thanks for the offer of a shell login on your
> machine. I would
> like to have a look at this. I have had Unix and
> later Linux shell access on ibiblio
> since 1993 so have had time to appreciate what Linux
> can do. I am a believer.
> My only access to the Internet was limited to my
> account on ibiblio for years until
> the Web came into being and I got a computer that
> could run Win 95.
> I need to have Linux or Linux commands on my home
> machine and also use my ibiblio
> login to continue development of my collections on
> ibiblio - hope to do more of this.
>
> Somewhere along the line I need to learn how to
> install Linux apps in my account on ibiblio
> and later on my home machine. Learning about
> makefile and configuring a bashrc or cshrc
> are part of the learning curve for me.
>
> Maybe you could join us in the permacultureinfo list
> to continue some of this discussion
> with other newbies like me in that forum - Linux &
> PC threads are perfect there along with lots of
> other web dev things.
>
> Cheers,
>
> LL
> --
> L.F.London
> lfl@intrex.net
> http://market-farming.com
> Market Farming Forum
>
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/marketfarming
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[pcplantdb] Formal Spec, Richard Morris, 02/08/2005
- Re: [pcplantdb] Formal Spec, John Schinnerer, 02/10/2005
  - Re: [pcplantdb] Formal Spec, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/10/2005
    - Re: [pcplantdb] Formal Spec, Sean Maley, 02/10/2005
      - Re: [pcplantdb] Formal Spec, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/10/2005
        
        Re: [pcplantdb] Formal Spec, Sean Maley, 02/10/2005
    - Re: [pcplantdb] Formal Spec, Richard Morris, 02/10/2005
      - Re: [pcplantdb] Formal Spec, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/10/2005