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[Chad Knepp <pyg@galatea.org>]

John Schinnerer writes:
 > Aloha,
 > 
 > > For a complex mess of reasons I will not articulate at this point, I
 > > feel that the best direction to go at this point is to reiterate my
 > > latest proposal.
 > > 
 > >   The project platform will start based on the Eden engine with an ORM
 > >   interface to an RDBMS (probably MySQL) anticipating forward porting
 > >   to Zope 3 in the future if funding and hosting allows.  Also, it
 > >   will be hosted on ibiblio.
 > 
 > You have stated previously that you are making this proposal to "keep 
 > the group together."
 > 
 > Our basic difference appears to be:
 > 
 > I observe Lawrence stating clearly that he will leave the project if it 
 > is not hosted on ibiblio.  Most recently, that he will do so if it is 
 > not hosted on ibiblio immediately.
 > 
 > I support him in making this choice - that is, choosing to leave if his 
 > needs are not met in this particular way through the outcome of our 
 > group process.  I do not think his needs concerning hosting on ibiblio 
 > are more important to the project than our overall group outcomes.
 > 
 > I do not support changing your previous "best compromise" proposal of 
 > [arashi/zope ----> ibilio], agreed to or at least not blocked by all but 
 > Lawrence, in order to keep Lawrence from leaving.
 > 
 > At present I don't see any reason for your abrupt abandonment of that 
 > proposal for this most recent one other than to keep Lawrence from leaving.
 > Especially when you say:
 > 
 >  > It is also not really what I thought was the best choice.
 > 
 > So I would like to hear some articulation of the complex mess of reasons 
 > you mention above.
 > And of course you can say no to my request.

Most of my reasons have little to do with the technical merits of the
decision at this point.

  o First and foremost, I think it's pretty important for energy level
    of the group and myself to make a decision and move on.  I somehow
    got sucked into the role of facilitator, feel pretty drained at
    this point, and just want it over.

  o I switched horses at the point when it seemed like you would be
    easier to get to move on this than Lawrence.  I also am pretty
    against the idea of committing a lot of resources toward getting
    ibiblio a server for all of the previously mentioned reasons.
    Going this way obviates the need to even have that conversation
    (something I was dreading).

  o I also think it would be pretty sad to fork the project before a
    line of code was written.  I'm ok if we go our seperate ways
    at the end of this development cycle or even midway, but I really
    think it's important to give it a good effort to work together.  I
    am also nervous about forking the project in the sense that I'm
    afraid two separate projects will not add up to as much as one
    with everyone participating.

-- 
Chad Knepp
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