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  • From: Stephanie Gerson <sgerson@stanfordalumni.org>
  • To: <pcplantdb@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: [pcplantdb] v.1.0 of pc post
  • Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:57:01 -0700

It's me again.

So I wrote up a first draft of a post for the Pc lists, and pasted it
below. Please read it and get back to me with comments. A few
questions:

-Is it too long?
-Should we give an example of the kind of information we're looking for?
For some reason it sounds pretty abstract...
-Also, should we list the members of the "core group" - at least so folks
out there know our names, or not? And should we include Scott Pittman on
this list - considering that his org is parenting us?

Bueno. And thanks for the votes Chad, I'm going to wait to see if John
S. or John H. respond. But updated tallies are also pasted below.

hasta luego
*Stephanie

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Hello everybody,

My name is Stephanie, and I’m writing to you with wonderful news. A
Permaculture database project that a few of us have been looking to
initiate, and for which I have been submitting grant proposals under the
auspices of The Permaculture Institute, recently received funding from
the Threshold Foundation! So, I wanted to contact all yalls to introduce
you to the project, and solicit participation.

The project is called Permaculture.info, and will provide an open
library of information about relationships between plants. (Our ultimate
intention is to create an open library of information about everything
Permaculture-related, a Permaculture information web, so this project is
part of long-term dedicated effort – but we’re sticking to plant
relationships for now.) Currently, there is a wealth of information
about individual plants available (i.e. the PFAF database), but not a
comprehensive resource regarding the relationships *between* them. And
considering that Permaculture, as with other systems sciences, seeks to
weave meaningful relationships between system components in order to
create self-regulating and regenerative systems, relationships are of the
essence. Permaculture.info will provide exactly this information and
will present it in a web-like manner – in other words, the message will
match the medium.

So here’s where you come in. We know that many of you have gleaned
valuable information about plant relationships from your own experiences,
and in a wide range of bioregions. We hope that you will contribute this
information, in the form of words, images, or otherwise, to this
resource. The effectiveness and informational value of Permaculture.info
depends on you – the more you add, the richer it will be. We are just
starting up, getting all the logistics in order and writing the initial
code for the database, but will be requesting data soon. And if you
would like to get more involved, you are welcome to join our listserv at
______.

Thank you, and we look forward to some good cross-pollination…

peace
*Stephanie

[Core Group]
Chad Knepp
Richard Morris
Lawrence London
John Schinnerer
John Howe
Stephanie Gerson
Scott Pittman

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Updated tallies - 8.11.04 @ 9:00pm

-ZOPE/IBIBLIO -
Rich – prefers Ibiblio (and whatever platforms they offer) over ZOPE
Lawrence – Ibiblio and MySQL, Eden., etc. (option 4 of Chad’s list)
Steph – I’m leaving this one up to yalls…
John S. – prefers ZOPE but willing to compromise
Chad – Use Zope and 'damn the torpedoes'. Start on arashi and move to
ibiblio when they get a Zope server running or buy space at johncompanies
or some such if ibiblio doesn't; 1 to 4 of Chad’s list, in order of
preference
John H. – ?

-DOMAIN OWNERSHIP/NON-PROFIT STATUS -
Steph – PI should own the domain, and if we do decide to go non-profit,
do it later
Rich – PI should own the domain, and if we do decide to go non-profit, do
it later
Lawrence – PI should own the domain, and no to non-profit status (“All
our time will need to be spent programming and data gathering, and
promoting our magnificent project.” Nice reasoning.)
Chad – PI should own the domain, no need for non-profit status
John S. – ?
John H. - ?

-NAME –
John S. – permaculture.info
Rich – permaculture.info
Lawrence – permaculture.info
Stephanie – permaculture.info as our domain, but not convinced about that
as our project name (this would mean that when we say it, it would be
“Permaculture dot info”? Hmm…not too into with the dot thang…which is

why I’d be more down with Permaculture Information Web.)
Chad – permaculture.info
John H. - ?


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Stephanie Gerson
sgerson@stanfordalumni.org
(c) 415.871.5683


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