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  • From: Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [nafex] Pawpaw survival
  • Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:28:17 -0600

Thanks, Mike.

Our "soil" is mainly sand. I'm not sure how I could possibly dig in enough organic matter to change that. Maybe a 3-4 foot whole with amended soil would give them a better start. However, with the near daily irrigation, I suspect that the soil is continually moist anyway, just not "rich".

Regards,

Jay

Jay Cutts
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On 7/12/2013 2:52 PM, Mike Levine wrote:
Jay,
It sounds like you are mostly doing all the right things. I'm wondering,
how much organic matter is in the soil you are planting into? My yard has
a thick layer of compost that I added to the entire lot about ten years
ago. It varies from 4-10" deep. The pawpaws, preferring bottomland sites,
seem to really prefer growing in high organic matter soils that are evenly
moist for most of the growing season. I'm not in a bottomland area, but
the soil moisture here is pretty moist most of the season, especially this
year. Btw, I am thinking more and more that the great success I've had
this season transplanting suckers is mostly due to an extremely rainy
summer. If it were last year's drought I doubt I'd be able to keep the
pawpaws watered enough to have as much success, but we've had a ton of rain
and mild temperatures so far.

Mike
Ann Arbor, MI
Zone 5b


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:37 PM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com> wrote:

Fascinating thread, my first thought was maybe the ambient humidity is too
low for the pawpaws to prosper..... But I see you said someone in the area
has had success with them.

re germinating pawpaw—as a rule I get 80% + success germinating seed, I
just stratify in peat in the fall, and once the greenhouse stays above
freezing in the spring I move the bags into the greenhouse. Seed that
doesn't germinate in a couple months I hold on to and the majority of it
will germinate the following year.

~mIEKAL




On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com>
wrote:

Jerry,

The soil is quite alkaline. I've taken to applying liberal doses of
acidifier and there has been a significant improvement in leaf color.
Without that, the leaves tend to be pale. Annual rain fall is 8"!! We
water every day or every other day. Summer temperatures in the high 90's.

What surprised me this year is that there was NOT a gradual decline in
the leaves but rather an almost overnight loss of leaves. Maybe the
wind. Maybe bugs. The remaining leaves were battered-looking and chewed
up on the edges. The biggest leaves went first and then the few
remaining small leaves just withered on the stem. The tree did not
respond with a new flush of growth. The stems very quickly became
dead-looking, which made me wonder if something had happened to the
roots themselves.

Regards,

Jay

Jay Cutts
Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book (2013)
(505) 281-0684
10 am to 10 pm Mountain Time, 7 days

On 7/11/2013 4:37 AM, Jwlehman@aol.com wrote:
Interesting reading everyone.

Regarding the success of moving pawpaw sprouts, several of you have had
very good success with it and that surprises me. Most growers including
myself
have failed at moving sprouts and seedlings. I talk with far more that
failed than successes. The failure rate is why most nurseries sell only
potted
pawpaws, not bear root plants. Congratulations are in order.

I've been trying to establish pawpaws for a number of years in New
Mexico at 5000 feet. I seem to be seeing a pattern in which the plants
do OK the first season and then seem to diminish and die out the
second or third. I had a plant that leafed out real nicely this spring
with lots of big leaves, which then died off. Jay

Jay,

What is your soil pH and summer time temps? Annual rain fall? Any leaf
discoloration?

East of the Mississippi River pawpaw does well in most areas from
Florida
to New York and Michigan.

Jerry
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