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In a message dated 8/16/2012 10:29:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
filtertitle@aol.com writes:

> So, he showed me photos: the leaves have almost all dropped off of most 
> of these.  He says the wood is still green inside.  If he digs around the 
> trunks and amends with manure, and waters can he do the following to save 
> the 
> trees: cut off the trunk at a few inches above each graft-union so that 
> the trees can focus their energy reserves into a small segment of the 
> remaining scion?
> Thank you,
> Steve; NJ    

Steve,

First off, I don't have the answer. So I'll speculate. 

You also wrote he planted all these fruit trees this spring. There is I 
believe the biggest factor. These trees didn't have well established root 
systems and this summer's heat and drought wasn't conducive to developing 
such. I 
suspect the root systems aren't properly established and may be dead, I'd 
be surprised if they can be saved. 

I believe if they are savable do as you suggested. Take care of the root 
system and heavily prune the top, maybe by 50%, to reduce the root's work 
load. Keep in mind also that when a small grafted tree comes under great 
stress 
they tend to abort the graft. 

Good luck to your friend. He may be better off, considering years to 
fruiting, to abandon the trees and start all over next spring. 

Jerry

                      
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I posted the picture again. I hope you can view it now.
Here's the link
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151167799016322&set=o.21070015101&type=1&theater




On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us> wrote:

> My intention was to request that Bass post to this mailing list the public
> link to the photo. I don't use Facebook much, but it used to be that when
> you posted a photo on Facebook, it gave you the option of sharing that
> photo with your Facebook friends and ALSO of sharing it with your friends
> who don't use Facebook via a public link. Anyone who had the link could
> look at that one photo, without needing to log onto Facebook.
>
> I assumed that was still true, and thought it would be helpful to mail
> that link to this list.
>
> I do use Facebook, but not as regularly as I use email. I find that
> Facebook is nice for passively seeing interesting bits, but is bad for
> looking up particular stuff (like one guy's photos posted to a shared
> group.) So I thought the link would be useful for Facebook users as well as
> for non-Facebook users.
>
> Ginda
>
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Steve wrote:
>
> > I noticed that the link disappeared from the facebook page. Too bad
> > because I wanted to see it too.
> >
> > On 8/16/2012 5:35 PM, Ginda Fisher wrote:
> >> link?
> >>
> >> On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:21 AM, bassgarden@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> Take a look at the picture I posted on Nafex facebook page. It shows a
> way of keeping the squirrels out with no traps.
> >>>
> >>> Bass
> >>> www.treesofjoy.com
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Lee Reich<leeareich@gmail.com>
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> >>> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:18:20
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> >>> Subject: Re: [nafex] Relocating squirrels-trap
> >>>
> >>> What kind of pole? A cat could climb a wooden one. A squirrel can't
> climb a metal one.
> >>>
> >>> Lee Reich, PhD
> >>> Come visit my farmden at http://leereich.blogspot.com/
> >>> http://leereich.com/
> >>>
> >>> Books by Lee Reich:
> >>> A Northeast Gardener's Year
> >>> The Pruning Book
> >>> Weedless Gardening
> >>> Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
> >>> Landscaping with Fruit
> >>> Grow Fruit Naturally
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Scott Smith wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I have been using Kania traps for 4-5 years and without them would be
> harvesting nothing.  This year even with four traps going I lost a third of
> my fruit -- the squirrels are out in ridiculous numbers this year and I was
> not trapping aggressively enough in early summer.   I have a big problem
> with birds eating the mast outside the trap, without which the squirrels
> are much less likely to find the trap.  So they need to be re-baited
> frequently.
> >>>>
> >>>> My cats show no interest in my Kania traps even though they could
> climb right up to them if they wanted to.  I have had birds set off the
> trap (but not get caught), I caught a flying squirrel once in it, and one
> time a raccoon got his hand stuck in it and was making a huge racket in the
> middle of the night trying to get out of it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think the best way to mount them is on a moveable pole about 5'
> high, out of the reach of most non-target species.
> >>>>
> >>>> Scott Z7 MD
> >>>>
> >>>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Road's End Farm wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Huh? Cats climb posts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Though I suppose it depends on the type of the post.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
> >>>>> Fresh-market organic produce, small scale
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> but by setting the trap while mounted up on the side of a post, they
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>> supposed to be safe for (will avoid trapping) nontarget species.
> >>>>>
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