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["Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett" <bluestem_farm@juno.com>]

I can't say that we've had success.  The only time we tried using reemay-type 
stuff on our grape vines, the vines that were 'protected' got nailed, while 
the uncovered ones were mostly fine. Muffy Barrettsouthern WI

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Anyone have much success with using agribon row cover to protect new grape 
shoots from a late frost?  The book Northern Winework suggests it as an 
option. We had a "late" frost last night and the shoots that weren't 
protected with row cover seemed to have less damage than the ones with the 
row cover.  Could this be the result of evaporative cooling from dew 
condensing on the fabric? Dan     
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    Al Yelvington said/asked, "I'd certainly appreciate any comments and
recommendations.  I do NOT have a spray license, so un-restricted organic
solutions (proven) would be greatly appreciated."

    I treat Fire Blight with enamel paint!  My Yellow Transparent Apple tree
was infected with Fire Blight over a dozen years ago.  I tried the
recommended spray first, then pruning.  Neither worked so I sprayed the
infected bark with enamel paint (enamel finds its way into bark folds better
than latex).  The paint didn't cure anything but it stopped (slowed?)
branches from dying.  Every year I lose a couple inches in height and every
year I add more paint.  Production has been going up every year because the
side branches keep growing.  Fire Blight will (probably?) eventually kill
the tree, but had I done nothing, it would have already died.
    I side effect of painting the infection is that the paint prevents the
disease from spreading to other trees.

Jim Fruth
Brambleberry Fruit Farm
4002 Davis Street
Pequot Lakes, MN  56472