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  • From: Scott Smith <scott@cs.jhu.edu>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] [Bulk] Re: Bagging grapes
  • Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:11:43 -0400

Sherwin, I did put slits in the ziplocs. They kept standing water out but
there was still too much moisture. From experiences I have heard about, the
ziplocs have been shown to work effectively on apples and pears, and to not
work on grapes and stone fruits due to rotting problems.

The problem with the footies is the moths can lay eggs through them. On
grapes there is no moth issue; I don't know how well organza bags would work
work to protect apples or peaches from moths -- better than footies at least
because the bag is larger and generally not pressing against the fruit. The
organza bags are much more durable than footies, they are made of a stiff
plastic mesh similar to nylon bird netting (but with far smaller holes).

Scott


On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:36 AM, sherwin wrote:

> On 6/5/2011 11:58 AM, Scott Smith wrote:
>> Randy, I tried ziploks and they rotted. I have heard of people using both
>> brown paper bags and organza bags on grapes with success.
>>
>> Organza bags are mesh bags with excellent air circulation. Hal Love who
>> sometimes posts here has found them to work very well for him. I bought
>> some organza bags for my grapes and will be seeing how they work this
>> year. They are on the expensive side, about 20 cents each, but can be
>> used for several years. Go to http://www.yourorganzabag.com for example
>> to order them. I bought 6x9 for small clusters and 8x12 for large
>> clusters.
>>
>> Another treatment for the stink bugs is to spray Surround, but it doesn't
>> wash off very easily (on the other hand its perfectly OK to eat it). I
>> use it on my peaches to keep the stink bug damage under control.
>>
>> Scott z7 MD
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Randy Burd wrote:
> Did you put slits in the bottoms of the ziplocks? Rain an moisture
> manage to get inside and
> the bags need a drainage provision. I use the ziplocks on apples
> and pears and have seen no
> signs of rotting. If the organza bags are anything like the
> footsie bags people use, I think they
> are far inferior to zip lock bags. They don't stop the nastier
> bugs and deteriorate quickly
> in the sun and rain.
>
> Sherwin Dubren
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