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[Richard Harrison <rharrison922@yahoo.com>]

John,
    I suggest that you locate a Southern source for goumi. Sherwood Akin of Sherwood's Greenhouses in Sibley, LA used to sell it. He is unfortunately, for us, now deceased. But I'm sure that SOMEONE else in the deep South should have it. I would start with nurseries in LA.
                                                    Richard, NW FL
I personally knew Sherwood Akin and saw his goumis. They were Spring-ripening, small bushes and had lots of flowers. Maybe you could start a post entitled "where can I find goumi in the Deep South?" 

--- On Sun, 1/30/11, Amelia Hayner <abhayner@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Amelia Hayner <abhayner@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] MisIdentification: Goumi vs. Autum Olive
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 5:58 AM

John

why are you doing this?? don't you know that Goumis taste like cherry-flavored Vicks cough drops??

<grin>

I too was very keen on them.. I am SURE I got the right thing- I did get them from Raintree ( at least I think I did) they fruited when they were very small. They were even that "improved" variety. Yuck.

And on top of tasting nasty, they are OILY, which makes the nasty taste linger longer.

But, they were very pretty. I did not notice that birds were not fighting over them, either. Which is another pointer.

The birds were busy in the nearby Juneberry bush.

or pecking holes in my strawberries. Just one hole, a taste, then off to ruin another.

 

This is WHY I want to find out what honeyberries, and wolfberries taste like BEFORE I plant them.

( I know that honeyberries aren't sposed to do well this far south, but remember I have a Very Cold Spot)

Amy

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:24 AM, John S <swim_at_svc@yahoo.com> wrote:

I've been trying to establish some goumi plants for more than a decade.  I've twice now planted so-called goumis from reputable North Wast mail-order nurseries, grown them out and upon fruiting, discovered them to be fall fruiting Autumn Olives instead of the spring fruiting Goumis.  It is easy to tell the difference from the appearance and timing of the fruit.

Today I received the 2011 print catalog from Raintree and found them using a picture of Autumn Olives for Goumis and the description indicating that goumis fruit in August instead of the correct timing of "spring".  I go on-line and find that the on-line picture of goumi is, instead, a picture of red fruited Cornelian Cherry.

I just wanted to share with the list that North West nurseries (more than one) are selling mis-identified Elaeagnus, at least to me, and from the current print catalog of Raintree, appear to be continuing the practice.

Anything I can do to fix this problem?  Does anybody on the list have contacts in the area with Raintree that could give them the word about this problem?  I've sent emails but no longer have confidence that the replacement Goumi that I'm to receive this spring will actually be a ture Goumi.  I don't want to spend an additional 5 years to find out this is another Autumn Olive.

Thanks

John

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