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["Charles Rhora" <rhoras@nuttrees.com>]

Hello,

We have grown the edible nut pines in orchards here in Zone 4 in Ontario,
Canada.
The Korean pine started bearing here at the age of 8 - 10 years with well
filled cones.
At age 15 we were collecting approximately 5 bushels of cones per tree.  The
cones are easily harvested, 
As they ripen they fall from the branches on the trees, and it is a simple
task of collecting the cones.
We air dry the cones for 7 days, and the cones open and most of the pine
nuts fall free from the cone.
We also have 12 other varieties of edible nut pines.  Reason for slow growth
of the pines is because they are not 
Native to the North America and are unable to absorb the nutrients from the
soil.  We developed an inoculant 
That enables the trees to make use of the nutrients and they put on up to 15
- 18 inches of new growth each year.
Visit our website at nuttrees.com for more information.

Charles Rhora,
Rhora's Nut Farm & Nursery.

-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of David Consolvo
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:05 AM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Any US-Native Pine Nut/Pinyon for or the Northeast?


I've been growing Korean pines in central Virginia for over ten years, very
healthy 
but with extremely slow growth and no cones yet.  They were difficult to get
started 
too (i.e. many seedlings died).

There is a Korean television show about pretty city girls working on
homesteads in 
the country (I love my satellite dish).  In one episode about pine nuts, the
trees 
were laboriously climbed, the cones were thrown to the ground, and then
burned 
in a fire started with dry pine needles.  Then the cones could be stepped on
and 
the nuts picked out easily, already roasted.

The shell, however, does not look easy to get out the small nut-meat.  All
in all, 
not an easy process, but burning the cones looks like it really helps.
~David Consolvo
Hungrytown, Virginia

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Lee Reich <lreich@hvc.rr.com>
Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date:  Wed, 15 Dec 2010 04:42:14 -0500

>A number of the pines you list have been growing in the NY Botanical Garden
for 
decades. The best one for the northeast are the very hardy Korean pine
(Pinus 
koreansis); also good are the Swiss Stone pine (P. cembra) and the Siberian
pine (P. 
sibirico). I've been growing Korean pine for 10-20 years and just recently
have 
seen some cones up at the top of the tree.
>
>Lee Reich, PhD
>http://www.leereich.com/
>http://leereich.com/blog.html.
>
>Books by Lee Reich:
>A Northeast Gardener's Year
>The Pruning Book
>Weedless Gardening
>Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
>Landscaping with Fruit
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Dec 15, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Steven Covacci wrote:
>
>> 
>> Any US-Native Pine Nut/Pinyon for or the Northeast?
>> 
>> Topic: Pine Nuts - US Native
>> 
>> Is there a species or more of pine nut/pinyon that is/are indigenous to
North 
America (west coast and midwest) that can be successfully grown and will
produce 
(even if marginally) in the Northeast/mid-Atlantic - i.e. New Jersey, zone
6b/7a.
>> 
>> North American pine nuts traditionally cultivated that are indigenous to
USDA 
zone 6 (and lower): short-leaf pine (P. echinata); two-needle pinyon (P.
edulis); 
sugar pine (P. lambertiana); California foothill pine (P. sabiniana); and
Torrey pine 
(P. torreyana).
>> 
>> Even though these specific pines come from like USDA zone regions, the
many 
climatic differences (i.e. moisture, photo period, etc.) and differences in
elevation 
(I'm near sea level) make it seem unlikely that I could grow any one of
these. 
However, there is a state park in upstate NY (high elevation) that, perhaps 
erroneously, lists hosting one of these - I forgot the species - and I think
that I 
remember seeing one or more of these in a champion tree catalogues of 
neighboring states.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Steve Covacci
>> USDA zone 6b/7a; New Jersey
>> 
>> (p.s. to reduce redundancy - when replying, where practical, please
remove my 
original text, except for subject heading and specific points being replied
to.)
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