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["David Consolvo" <fruitopia@firstva.com>]

I've been growing Korean pines in central Virginia for over ten years, very 
healthy
but with extremely slow growth and no cones yet.  They were difficult to get 
started
too (i.e. many seedlings died).

There is a Korean television show about pretty city girls working on 
homesteads in
the country (I love my satellite dish).  In one episode about pine nuts, the 
trees
were laboriously climbed, the cones were thrown to the ground, and then burned
in a fire started with dry pine needles.  Then the cones could be stepped on 
and
the nuts picked out easily, already roasted.

The shell, however, does not look easy to get out the small nut-meat.  All in 
all,
not an easy process, but burning the cones looks like it really helps.
~David Consolvo
Hungrytown, Virginia

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Lee Reich <lreich@hvc.rr.com>
Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date:  Wed, 15 Dec 2010 04:42:14 -0500

>A number of the pines you list have been growing in the NY Botanical Garden 
>for
decades. The best one for the northeast are the very hardy Korean pine (Pinus
koreansis); also good are the Swiss Stone pine (P. cembra) and the Siberian 
pine (P.
sibirico). I've been growing Korean pine for 10-20 years and just recently 
have
seen some cones up at the top of the tree.
>
>Lee Reich, PhD
>http://www.leereich.com/
>http://leereich.com/blog.html.
>
>Books by Lee Reich:
>A Northeast Gardener's Year
>The Pruning Book
>Weedless Gardening
>Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
>Landscaping with Fruit
>
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>On Dec 15, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Steven Covacci wrote:
>
>>
>> Any US-Native Pine Nut/Pinyon for or the Northeast?
>>
>> Topic: Pine Nuts – US Native
>>
>> Is there a species or more of pine nut/pinyon that is/are indigenous to 
>> North
America (west coast and midwest) that can be successfully grown and will 
produce
(even if marginally) in the Northeast/mid-Atlantic – i.e. New Jersey, zone 
6b/7a.
>>
>> North American pine nuts traditionally cultivated that are indigenous to 
>> USDA
zone 6 (and lower): short-leaf pine (P. echinata); two-needle pinyon (P. 
edulis);
sugar pine (P. lambertiana); California foothill pine (P. sabiniana); and 
Torrey pine
(P. torreyana).
>>
>> Even though these specific pines come from like USDA zone regions, the many
climatic differences (i.e. moisture, photo period, etc.) and differences in 
elevation
(I'm near sea level) make it seem unlikely that I could grow any one of these.
However, there is a state park in upstate NY (high elevation) that, perhaps
erroneously, lists hosting one of these – I forgot the species - and I think 
that I
remember seeing one or more of these in a champion tree catalogues of
neighboring states.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve Covacci
>> USDA zone 6b/7a; New Jersey
>>
>> (p.s. to reduce redundancy – when replying, where practical, please remove 
>> my
original text, except for subject heading and specific points being replied 
to.)
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