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["Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu" <Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu>]

Jay,
I've seen D.virginiana specimens which grew up in
relatively deep woods, in a high stem-density
setting, that were easily 60+ ft tall - with clear
trunks and no branches for the first 30-40 ft -
actually a decent timber-type tree, but not exactly
what I'd consider a 'shade tree'.
Most open-grown persimmons, whether seedling or
grafted, tend to grow as a spreading 'orchard' type
tree, not unlike a standard apple, though most I've
encountered haven't assumed the stature that most old
standard apples achieve; either that, or someone
grubs them out as 'junk' before they reach that size.

In my own experience, "NC-10", one of the very first
persimmons I grafted, has tended to have a much more
upright growth habit than other D.v. selections I've
grafted subsequently - but that one tree may be an
anomaly.

Nikita's Gift, aka Rosseyanka, is a nice one.  Growth
rate here has been comparable to most D.v. grafts. 
Fruits are larger than most any D.v.; ripen late and
hang well on the tree, necessitating hand-removal
once winter freezes arrive.

Lucky


------- Original Message -------
>From    : Jay Cutts[mailto:orders@cuttsreviews.com]
Sent    : 1/6/2010 10:52:38 PM
To      : nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
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Subject : RE: [NAFEX] Tall persimmons

 I've read that American persimmon can get 50 feet
tall.  I need a tree 
to create some shade and it should get to 30 to 40
feet.  We're in 
Albuquerque NM at 5000 feet and not many trees get
that tall.

Does anyone have experience with the American
persimmon getting that 
tall in a reasonable amount of time?  It looks to me
like the Japanese 
persimmon doesn't get anywhere near that height.  
Would a grafted 
variety  of Am. persimmon tend to not get as tall
because of the graft? 
I see some varieties grafted on D. virginiana, so
don't know that that 
would cause it to be shorter.

I just saw a variety listed in Burnt Ridge called
Nikita's Gift, which 
is supposed to be a cross between American and asian
persimmon with 
larger fruit than Am and hardier than asian. Anyone
heard of this?

Best,

Jay

Jay Cutts
Cutts Graduate Reviews
800-353-4898 day or eve, 7 days
(In NM, 505-281-0684)




Kieran and/or Donna wrote:
> I found a newspaper article from Oct 9 that we have
put away for future 
> reference.  It said homeowners will be pleased this
winter because not only 
> are fuel prices down, but the official prediction
was for mild weather this 
> winter.  It was just too good to burn, despite the
nightly lows around 9-12 
> F that we've been having.  Donna 
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