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Doug,

A good substitute is supposed to be shisandra, the magnolia vine.  It has 
proven hardy here in Green Bay WI z4/5 and produced berries for the last four 
years.  I have probably limited its growth somewhat by keeping it in a five 
gallon pail (outside).  Like kiwi, it has male and female flowers on separate 
plants, except for a variety or two.  The one I have is called Prince, if I 
am not mistaken, from Jung's Seeds and Nursery in Randolph WI.  
I collected the seed and have it in the refrigerator breaking dormancy.  I 
have started a number of apple seeds and have attempted the same strategy on 
the shisandra seeds, although I do recognize that it is unlikely that I will 
end up with both sexes on a single plant.  

Quince is supposed to be provide a nice alternative to lemon juice.  I know 
Oikos Tree Crops sold a variety of quince species.

Merry Christmas

Jim Elie


---- dwoodard@becon.org wrote: 
> Lon, can you mention the species and cultivars, or are such distinctions
> worthwhile? Good temperate substitutes for lemon juice are something that
> interests me.
> 
> Doug Woodard
> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
> 
> 
> Lon Rombough wrote:
> 
> > ...can be pressed for clear, high quality juice.
> > I have some  ornamental quinces rather like that, except that  the
> > juice is very tart.  Good lemon juice substitute, though.
> > -Lon Rombough
> 
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