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["S & E Hills" <ehills7408@wowway.com>]

I’ve got an incarnata (in the ground) as well as half a dozen or so other kinds of passionflowers in pots that I bring into the house each year.  My incarnata has leaves more like incense (5 fingered is not unusual) as well as the typical (for incarnata) 3 fingered leaves.   It’s a very healthy, happy vine…though I have little luck pulling out shoots to grow (and digging has proven difficult as well).  The fruit generally does not fully ripen for me, but the fruits are pretty heavy and have more pulp to them than other wild (p. Incarnata) fruits I’ve tried.  Do your incarnata’s have colored petals (sepals) as mine are white? 

 

Interestingly I’ve also now planted Incense into the ground and since I’ve overwintered Eucomis (pineapple lillies) in the same area, I just might get Incense to overwinter as well.  (time will tell).   I’ve crossed Incense and Incarnata and will be trying to grow the seeds this fall (once the weather makes outdoor activities less fun). 

 

Scott Hills

Zone 6b Michigan

 

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From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of John S
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:09 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] anyone growing temperate climate passionfruit?

 

Lee,  I think you misunderstood my post.  I am growing the plain incarnata, not an incense hybrid.  There was a typo in my post regarding hand pollination - fun, I guess, dodging the bees, but not worth the effort there regarding producing quality fruit.

 

I guess it is possible that the two vines I have are inferior, but one was purchased as a plant from a company that promotes unusual fruit.  I would asume that they are offering a superior selection.

 

Mathew, I appreciate the offer.  Let me think about that one.  Perhaps next year we could swap some material.  It's a bit late here to establish before winter.

 

As I said before, love the smell and taste, but not productive enough (per fruit).

John

--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Lee Reich <lreich@hvc.rr.com> wrote:

From: Lee Reich <lreich@hvc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] anyone growing temperate climate passionfruit?
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 2:58 PM

John,

 

Is your hybrid the variety Incense, or some other?

 

Lee Reich, PhD

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On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Mathew Waehner wrote:

Hi John: 

I find the fruit from my hybrid to be sweeter than any of the incarnata fruit that I have tried.  I could send you (or anyone from NAFEX) a cutting or a seedling.  As good as the incence hybrid is for fruit, it was selected for flowers.  I think better hybrids are possible.

One of my friends has an incarnata that produces very juicy fruit, but they have no flavor at all.  Other friends don't ever see fruit from their healthy incarnata vines.

I speculate that the bumblebees fall asleep because passionflower is a sedative- it makes a very calming tea.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:00 PM, John S <swim_at_svc@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mathew,  I am growing incarnata here in zone 5-6 with very mixed results.  I obtained one plant from Edible Landscapeing and started seed from Thompson and Morgan, eventually ending up with  a single plant from them.  So my two plants produce fruit that is shaped differently, with the EL fruit being round and the seedling fruit being elongated (if I didn't confuse the sources).

Unfortunately, although I can get a lot of fruit (30 per vine is about the average) few of the fruits are worth bothering with as far as eating or juicing.  I have given up on these and will likely remove them in the next year or two.

Don't get me wrong, the fruit smells great, not at all like the typical passionfruit juice you can purchase.  It is very aromatic and tastes good too.  However, there is so little juice per fruit that it is not worth the effort and some years I only get a few fruit that fully ripen.

Lee's excellent book encouraged my original effort, but so far, the results just have not proven worthwhile here.  I would encourage you to try plain incarnata since you have a warmer climate and longer growing season due to its distinctive different flavor from regualr passion fruit.  I would be willing to ship you some cuttings from mine, if you would like to given them a try.  It might be interesting to see if a longer growing season would deliver the results that have so far excaped me.  There is, however, no doubt in my mind thata additional breeding effort is needed to produce an incarnata that will be worth growing in my zone/area...  It is, however, always interesting to watch the bumble bees servicing the flowers and frequently falling asleep (or getting drunk) on them.  And lest someone suggest it, one year I did religiously hand pollinate hundreds of flowers, hoping to get a better quality fruit, but this did make a significant differnce.



--- On Wed, 8/19/09, Mathew Waehner <waehner@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mathew Waehner <waehner@gmail.com>
Subject: [NAFEX] anyone growing temperate climate passionfruit?
To: nafex@lists..ibiblio.org
Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 12:43 PM

 

I'm currently growing P. incarnata x cinnicata 'incence', and it has proven itself hardy and productive here in Zone 7b.  California Rare Fruit Growers has some info on good varieties for fruit production, but I can't find any nurseries that offer them.  Tradewinds fruit offers seeds of several species, but not select varieties.

 

Does anyone have experience with hardy passionfruit, or know any good sources of selected varieties? 

 

 

Thanks!

 

Matt Waehner

Zone 7b

 

 

 

 

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